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Will Meyer be left with scraps at OL?

  • neoavatara said...

    Actually, his math is correct. Yours isn't.

    Say you have a 50% chance of doing something, anything, over the next 100 years. Well, then tomorrow, you do that something. You still only have a total of 50% chance of doing it over the next 100 years. The odds don't change, they don't add up.

    Again, don't want to go too deep into this, kind of irrelevant.

    Inuyesta...the problem with your calculation is that the OSU odds will CHANGE. They probably hit their high point this year or next with Braxton, and then will plummet when he leaves.

    headslap

    The sample size is 4 years not 1.

    This post was edited by Huburt on 1/29/2013 at 4:00 PM

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  • Well lets get back on topic OSU will be left with scraps at OL this year.

    Huburt ●

  • Frank C said...

    So we have Eitzel (on the Scout board) definitively saying that Ohio will win 6 of the next 7 regular season match-ups between the Big 2.

    And we have UM fans clearly demonstrating that they neither know nor understand how odds work.

    I'm amused and intrigued.

    FIFY

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  • Huburt said...

    Well lets get back on topic OSU will be left with scraps at OL this year.

    Ok.

    Cameron Hunt deciding between Oregon and Cal.

    Michmania

  • Huburt said...

    I'm full of shit....

    We know.

    When you divided an arbitrary number by yet another arbitrary number and tried to pass off the result as probabilistically significant, you exposed your ignorance.

    Btw, here's a reality check for Ohio fans:

    In 2009, Urban Meyer's Florida team had the following players in its 2 deep:

    - QB Tim Tebow
    - TE Aaron Hernandez (Pro-Bowl)
    - C Maurkice Pouncey (Pro-Bowl)
    - OG Mike Pouncey
    - WR Riley Cooper
    - LB Brandon Spikes
    - CB Major Wright
    - DE Carlos Dunlap
    - DE Jermaine Cunningham
    - CB Joe Haden
    - WR Chris Rainey
    - S Will Hill
    - CB Ahmad Black
    - CB Janoris Jenkins

    I'm probably forgetting a few names but that's at least 14 current NFL players from the 2009 Florida team who play (or have played meaningful snaps) at the pro level.

    The 2009 team did not have Percy Harvin or Louis Murphy from the 2008 team but it was was one year older.

    That 2009 team lost 32-13 to Alabama.

    It is unlikely that Meyer's future Ohio teams will be more loaded then his Florida teams. He built his Florida teams when Bobby Bowden was a lame duck coach at FSU and while Miami suffered through Randy Shannon. In other words, he was able to snag more Florida talent with less competition from in-state rivals.

    After Meyer's 2009 team was beaten convincingly 32-13 in the 2009 SEC Title game and after Meyer's 2010 team was crushed 31-6 in Tuscaloosa, the Saban-Alabama dynasty forced Urban Meyer into early retirement.

    Thankfully, Michigan's bread and butter is similar to Alabama's pro-style which gave Meyer/Florida so much trouble.

    While Ohio fans are probably convinced that Meyer/Ohio will run the B1G, I think they should avoid being overconfident.

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  • ^While perfectly fair, I don't think the fact Meyer went 17-6 at BGSU, 22-2 at Utah, or 12-0 this year at OSU can be overlooked. He's a better coach than simply the product of a talent-rich SEC Florida system imo. Nor does he need an OSU team as talented as that Florida team to win one out of the next four BCS championships if luck is on his side. For example, ND might have very well won a BCS title this year in all likelihood if KSU or Oregon went undefeated. You don't necessarily need the same talent as Bama if you luck out and get two undefeated teams outside of the SEC.

    At least until we move to the playoff format after next season. If people think the SEC is dominant now? Wait until they start getting two teams in a 4-team playoff. We're going to get SEC vs SEC championships on the regular if nothing changes.

    ETA: I agree with you in the sense that I don't see OSU "running the B1G." IMO Michigan has been recruiting/putting together a team that is truly OSU's opposite (more pro-style/smashmouth whereas OSU has been trending toward speed/finesse: see LSU vs Florida in years past) but equal. In my opinion, we're going to see some of the best, most competitive OSU/Michigan games we've seen over the next few years. After OSU and Michigan, though, I don't know who can really stand up in the B1G. Northwestern is a nice darkhorse, I love what Fitzgerald is doing there.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by dukeluke on 1/29/2013 at 4:42 PM

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  • CMXI said...

    Just like he did a horrible job juggling Ezekiel Elliot and Dontre Wilson.

    There is nothing wrong with recruiting a wide receiver who happens to line up behind the QB.

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  • Michmania said...

    Ok.

    Cameron Hunt deciding between Oregon and Cal.

    Sorry meant to quote Frank C

    I deff need to eat a little crow on that. With that said a lot of UM posters showed they truly had no clue.

    I don't think OSU will run the BIG. I think it will be a 2 horse race with UM and OSU competing for a spot in the 4 team playoff most years.

    When I was saying OSU had a 30% chance of winning a NC over the next 4 years. Which turned out to be not as crazzy as most posters initially thought. I was thinking UM had around a 20% chance.

    Also I could do the same thing with many of the BAMA teams recently and the USC teams from the early to mid 2000s. My point is it takes talent to win a NC. Which booth UM and OSU are bringing in.

    Urban has also had success every place he has been a HC. It wasn't like UF was his one bright spot.

    This post was edited by Huburt on 1/29/2013 at 4:47 PM

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  • psubills62 said...

    There is nothing wrong with recruiting a wide receiver who happens to line up behind the QB.

    Have you watched Wilsons HL tape? The kid has wing back written all over him.

    Huburt ●

  • Huburt said...

    Have you watched Wilsons HL tape? The kid has wing back written all over him.

    How OSU fans see him matters a lot less than how the Elliots see him.

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    CMXI

  • I think part of why osu fans are optimistic about "running the B1G" in the near future comes from two things:
    1. Meyer's record vs rivals and bowl games is ridiculous. EvenUM fans have to agree that is impressive. Where Hoke's is not. Smaller sample size for Hoke.

    2. The 12 and 0 season with this team that couldn't score on some high school squads last year gives the impression of great player development and game planning to go with the studs he is recruiting.

    We all can see that Michigan is getting better but osu has owned them for so long that it just feels like we are supposed to beat you. It's probably how you all felt in the 90's. it's gotta end some time but until it does you just feel confident in the W.

    I don't think these things are necessarily going to play out but I do believe a lot of people think this way.

    HotSauce

  • CMXI said...

    How OSU fans see him matters a lot less than how the Elliots see him.

    Unfortunately your right but its up to the coaching staff to make sure he understands.

    Something to note is Urban never had a 1,000 yards rusher until last year. Almost had 2 if Hyde didn't get injured. I think some recruits may not want to share the ball as much as Urban wants to.

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  • Huburt said...

    Have you watched Wilsons HL tape? The kid has wing back written all over him.

    Just give me a minute to pull up my dossier of analyses for all of OSU's targets and commits, and I'll get back to you.

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  • psubills62 said...

    Just give me a minute to pull up my dossier of analyses for all of OSU's targets and commits, and I'll get back to you.

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  • @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

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  • mrbigshot89 said...

    @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

    explode

    In related news, Dontre Wilson is taking a visit to Texas, and Ezekiel Elliot has shut down all interviews/media until NSD. While it's unlikely, there's a marginal possibility that OSU doesn't get a single RB in this class.

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  • mrbigshot89 said...

    @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

    roflmao

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  • One acct of Urban/Kc convo-Urban: "Are we in your top 5?" McDermott: "No, sir." Urban: "Are you considering us at all?" McDermott: "No, sir"cold

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  • mrbigshot89 said...

    @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

    lulz

    McDermott might as well have spit in Meyer's face and then b!tch slapped him for good measure.

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  • mrbigshot89 said...

    @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

    roflmao

    This post was edited by inuyesta on 1/30/2013 at 12:02 PM

    inuyesta

  • mrbigshot89 said...

    @TheStateOfTheU: Heard talk that Meyer showed up to talk to McDermott, who told him not to bother. Caused Meyer to stutter.

    So much for the 247 'warmth' meter.

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    neoavatara

  • If Elliott peaces out on Urban....it would just be too fitting. pray this happens

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