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I haven't seen much talk about recruiting the type of OL you need for your style of offense. Everywhere meyer has coached he has had a good offense. His spread style requires a different type of OL than Hoke's. They just went undefeated with a line that was ranked worse than any he will ever recruit while at osu. He just beat michigan with the worst set of offensive palymakers he will ever have at osu. He has never had high numbers at OL. You only play five and they usually don't come out unless injured. When you start to look at the quality and depth of the dl at osu vs michigan i don't know how you aren't worried. You might have 15 OL that are awesome but only 5 can play at a time. The more they play together, the better they usually are. All Meyer needs to have is five players out of 4 classes. DL can rotate and stay fresh. He just turned a tight end into an NFL Tackle. Two of the underperforming DTs are switching to OG. They could very well dominate on offense. DTs tend to be more athletic and nastier than OL.

Responding to an earlier post, the reason LSU doesn't win is becasue their coaching staff sucks at recruiting and developing QBs. As good as their defense is, their offense can never score vs quality teams. They would be right with Alabama if they had a better qb and offensive plan.

I agree with what you are saying. I don't think osu is ready to blow Michigan away or anything. I actually think the two teams Are getting better vs the rest of the league. My point is that um recruiting all these OL is great but osu will also have pretty good OL play if you consider Meyers history and recruiting. He just does it differently. I don't think it's going to be an Alabama vs nd situation like some other posters seem to.
I think depth at dl is more useful than depth At OL provided you have five who can play because you usually rotate more dl than OL.

OL generally take longer and are harder to develop. An elite DE can come in and be very productive as a FR or RS FR. That rarely works on the OL. Hoke is doing the right thing by making OL a high priority and OSU easily might find themselves in a dangerously thin position in a couple of years if they don't get their OL recruiting on track soon.

IMO 2014 OL recruiting for OSU will be huge. If we strike out with the 2014 class, we're in trouble. If Meyer brings in 3-4 4* OL, I think we're in good shape. He got the first one in Marcelys Jones, but Jones was a lock the same way Evan Lisle was. The real test will be the OOS OL like Rod Johnson, Jamarco Jones, Orlando Brown, etc. To this point he hasn't been able to grab that kind of top OOS OL at OSU.

And people called me a OSU fan in the game thread today......as there is a 53 page thread on who their slimeball coach is recruiting at OL

Actually Meyer has done great with the DL. His first two classes were both arguably the top DL classes in the nation. He hasn't done enough to beef up our OL yet....the best thing he did was adding Warriner (from ND) to the staff. He transformed ND's Oline and did a great job in his first year with our Oline...our best Oline in YEARS. Hopefully this development will progress and our Oline will continue to improve.

I'm not a Hoke believer, I just don't think he's the guy to get you guys back to where you need to be, but the guy can definitely recruit OLinemen...what is he doing? Promising these guys red zone targets??

Here's a reality check for Ohio fans:

In 2009, Urban Meyer's Florida team had the following players in its 2 deep:

- QB Tim Tebow
- TE Aaron Hernandez (Pro-Bowl)
- C Maurkice Pouncey (Pro-Bowl)
- OG Mike Pouncey
- WR Riley Cooper
- LB Brandon Spikes
- CB Major Wright
- DE Carlos Dunlap
- DE Jermaine Cunningham
- CB Joe Haden
- WR Chris Rainey
- S Will Hill
- CB Ahmad Black
- CB Janoris Jenkins

I'm probably forgetting a few names but that's at least 14 current NFL players from the 2009 Florida team who play (or have played meaningful snaps) at the pro level.

The 2009 team did not have Percy Harvin or Louis Murphy from the 2008 team but it was was one year older.

That 2009 team lost 32-13 to Alabama.

It is unlikely that Meyer's future Ohio teams will be more loaded then his Florida teams. He built his Florida teams when Bobby Bowden was a lame duck coach at FSU and while Miami suffered through Randy Shannon. In other words, he was able to snag more Florida talent with less competition from in-state rivals.

After Meyer's 2009 team was beaten convincingly 32-13 in the 2009 SEC Title game and after Meyer's 2010 team was crushed 31-6 in Tuscaloosa, the Saban-Alabama dynasty forced Urban Meyer into early retirement.

Thankfully, Michigan's bread and butter is similar to Alabama's pro-style which gave Meyer/Florida so much trouble.

While Ohio fans are probably convinced that Meyer/Ohio will run the B1G, I think they should avoid being overconfident.

....But.....but.....playmakers....

In all seriousness though I agree with what you are saying. I think Michigan will have one of the few OL's in college football that could actually allow a team to run on Alabama. Michigan definitely needs more pieces to have a shot at beating Alabama though.

I don't think anybody is saying that urban Meyer is better than saban. Meyer even says al is the gold standard and they know they have to get better each day with beating al as their goal.
Your post seems to be putting hoke at Michigan on Saban's level trying to compare Meyers records vs saban In his last two years at fl. I think we all can agree that hoke is far away from saban. There are many teams that run a pro style offense. The only one that bothered Meyer is the one coached by saban. If you guys hire him, then we will start to worry.

The post I quoted makes reference to saban beating Meyer with a pretty good team that ran the same style of offense that Michigan and hoke are now running. That is definitely making a connection between hoke and saban having success against Meyer. That is how he/she is putting them on the same level. I don't think any realistic fan thinks the bucks or any team is going to go in and have an easy time beating Alabama. I do think osu should have pretty high expectations of running the table in the conference the next few years and taking a shot at the sec champ in the playoffs. That's all you need is a chance.

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