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Will Meyer be left with scraps at OL?

  • YuanT said...

    Self-absorbed autocorrect or voice recognition (assuming you're on a phone)?

    Wow, I have no idea what that was... facepalm_msu

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    Ducksworth

  • Ducksworth said...

    What about Script Ohio? Or you spelling/chanting O-H-I-O? Or the word "Ohio" NOT "Ohio State" being in your fight song?

    It's cute that you call yourselves Ohio more than we do but get mad when we do it.

    We just can't spell Stete so we just choose to say Ohio. Didn't you know that?

    dkerns

  • CMXI said...

    Every time I hear them, I picture Peter Griffin dressed as Han Solo yelling "THAT IS OUR WORD! ONLY WE CAN SAY THAT WORD!"

    That is true too.

    dkerns

  • dkerns said...

    We just can't spell Stete so we just choose to say Ohio. Didn't you know that?

    Not sure if spelling error was on purpose...

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    CMXI

  • CMXI said...

    Not sure if spelling error was on purpose...

    roflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmaoroflmao

    dkerns

  • Bob Lichtenfels‏@BobLichtenfels

    5-star Dorian Johnson did texted current commit Scott Orndoff and he has committed to #Pitt

    HelloHeisman 21

  • smith2ginn said...

    in before the david dawson and dorian johnson commits and subsequent lock

    roflmao

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    Rabid

  • BWAHAHAHA

    Five-Star Dorian Johnson commits to Pittsburgh

    Five-star OT Dorian Johnson commits to Pittsburgh.

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    Michmania

  • Whaaaa?! He was an ohio lock

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    Clarkw267

  • Michmania said...

    BWAHAHAHA

    And this thread lives on...

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    neoavatara

  • I can't believe he didn't want to go to ohio sarcasm. Meyer doing work

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    Moon

  • Well I hope Urban doesn't let him come to the game this weekend.....haha

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    BestoftheBig

  • This is a pretty big miss for ohio imo, because I think Dawson will head to Michigan st. Besides him and Johnson they really aren't in the running for another top OL.

    HelloHeisman 21

  • HelloHeisman 21 said...

    This is a pretty big miss for ohio imo, because I think Dawson will head to Michigan st. Besides him and Johnson they really aren't in the running for another top OL.

    I'm not going to lie, I REALLY wanted Dorian Johnson (moreso than Dawson by far, as DJ is a great, versatile OTackle with a good mix of strength + speed--which are hard to come by, and work perfectly in the sort of Spread offense Urban runs).

    That said, I don't know how much Michigan fans follow Ohio State, but I feel pretty good about our Offensive Line future. Based on two things: 1) We're short on recruits, but our entire starting OL (outside of Fragel) is coming back next year, so that buys us another year to clean up the ones we have and build through the 2014 class (we have a lot of feelers out there as well). 2) Ed Warinner has done an AMAZING job with the OL we have. Our OL was probably our weakness last year, they SUCKED. This year they have likely been our strength--that's entirely on Warinner imo.

    A recruit like Dorian Johnson is going to Pitt in part because Chryst has a reputation for putting OL in the NFL. Ohio State has to rebuild a reputation for putting OL in the NFL before we start getting those OL recruits again.

    dukeluke

  • dukeluke said...

    I'm not going to lie, I REALLY wanted Dorian Johnson (moreso than Dawson by far, as DJ is a great, versatile OTackle with a good mix of strength + speed--which are hard to come by, and work perfectly in the sort of Spread offense Urban runs).

    That said, I don't know how much Michigan fans follow Ohio State, but I feel pretty good about our Offensive Line future. Based on two things: 1) We're short on recruits, but our entire starting OL (outside of Fragel) is coming back next year, so that buys us another year to clean up the ones we have and build through the 2014 class (we have a lot of feelers out there as well). 2) Ed Warinner has done an AMAZING job with the OL we have. Our OL was probably our weakness last year, they SUCKED. This year they have likely been our strength--that's entirely on Warinner imo.

    A recruit like Dorian Johnson is going to Pitt in part because Chryst has a reputation for putting OL in the NFL. Ohio State has to rebuild a reputation for putting OL in the NFL before we start getting those OL recruits again.

    I think you guys are confusing a better OL for Braxton Miller. BM makes your OL look better. We've been through the exact same thing with Forcier and Denard. Fewer sacks, more rushing yards, better 3rd down conversion %, higher ranked offense, etc, etc. It's not your OL. It's the spread offense with a very good athlete at the helm.

    MrWoodson

  • Aw poor corch

    MichaelHardenII

  • dukeluke said...

    I'm not going to lie, I REALLY wanted Dorian Johnson (moreso than Dawson by far, as DJ is a great, versatile OTackle with a good mix of strength + speed--which are hard to come by, and work perfectly in the sort of Spread offense Urban runs).

    That said, I don't know how much Michigan fans follow Ohio State, but I feel pretty good about our Offensive Line future. Based on two things: 1) We're short on recruits, but our entire starting OL (outside of Fragel) is coming back next year, so that buys us another year to clean up the ones we have and build through the 2014 class (we have a lot of feelers out there as well). 2) Ed Warinner has done an AMAZING job with the OL we have. Our OL was probably our weakness last year, they SUCKED. This year they have likely been our strength--that's entirely on Warinner imo.

    A recruit like Dorian Johnson is going to Pitt in part because Chryst has a reputation for putting OL in the NFL. Ohio State has to rebuild a reputation for putting OL in the NFL before we start getting those OL recruits again.

    While that may be true, OL is an area where you really don't want to take a year or so off. You want a constant flow of OL to have depth in case of injuries. Just look at Iowa's and MSU's offensive lines. They got hit with a couple injuries and have been held back because of it.

    Wariner is a good coach, but getting more than 2 recruits will help with depth. I know you don't lose anyone next year, but what happens if there is a year they are all gone? You also never want to have to resort to playing true freshman offensive linemen.

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  • freernnur5 said...

    While that may be true, OL is an area where you really don't want to take a year or so off. You want a constant flow of OL to have depth in case of injuries. Just look at Iowa's and MSU's offensive lines. They got hit with a couple injuries and have been held back because of it.

    Wariner is a good coach, but getting more than 2 recruits will help with depth. I know you don't lose anyone next year, but what happens if there is a year they are all gone? You also never want to have to resort to playing true freshman offensive linemen.

    I agree with you for the most part. I would love an OL class like Michigan's the last two years, but let's be honest, who else in the country has one like Michigan's? No one that I'm aware of. OSU had 5 OL recruits in 2011, 5 OL recruits in 2012, so the 2 in 2013 is definitely painful, but not the end-all be all. My honest is opinion is that it was half OL recruits being disinterested in OSU, half Urban focusing on trying to find/offer playmakers in this class as opposed to focusing in on wow-ing OL.

    Now, if we strike out in 2014 the way we did in 2013, you'll start to hear me panicking haha. Every team goes through recruiting dry-spells in certain areas, though. I love Michigan's 2012 and 2013 OL/DL classes, but I'm not crazy about their 2012 or 2013 classes when it comes to Offensive playmakers (if they don't land Derrick Green or Laquon Treadwell, which sounds about 50/50 at this point). My brother (a lifelong Michigan fan) and I have spoken about this a few times lately.

    This post was edited by dukeluke on 11/18/2012 at 7:51 PM

    dukeluke

  • MrWoodson said...

    I think you guys are confusing a better OL for Braxton Miller. BM makes your OL look better. We've been through the exact same thing with Forcier and Denard. Fewer sacks, more rushing yards, better 3rd down conversion %, higher ranked offense, etc, etc. It's not your OL. It's the spread offense with a very good athlete at the helm.

    While I agree BM and the spread offense help the line look better during passing plays, check out the yards per rush for the running backs. Hyde (5.2), Hall (5.5), Smith (6.8), Dunn (5.3) and the longest single run by any of them was 33 yards by Smith. I'm sure the zone read and the threat of BM taking off has helped but the run blocking has been obviously better. OSU brought in 5 OL last year and at least 2 are redshirting so this class is at least 4 deep without Johnson and Dawson (we aren't getting him either, so this thread WILL live on and on and on). Scraps this year at OL? yeah you might be right with regard to total commits and star rating, but with a solid position coach who knows how 2013 OL commits (and 2012 RSFR) will end up.

    djm1478

  • Bill Kurelic was telling everyone that OSU was even with Pitt today too.

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    wolverineblue

  • wolverine.blue said...

    Bill Kurelic was telling everyone that OSU was even with Pitt today too.

    lol I love Kurelic. I think he might be a UM fan in disguise. He always reports OSU is leading for every prospect they're in the mix for, and then when they commit somewhere else, all the OSU fans are let down.

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    Rabid

  • dukeluke said...

    I'm not going to lie, I REALLY wanted Dorian Johnson (moreso than Dawson by far, as DJ is a great, versatile OTackle with a good mix of strength + speed--which are hard to come by, and work perfectly in the sort of Spread offense Urban runs).

    That said, I don't know how much Michigan fans follow Ohio State, but I feel pretty good about our Offensive Line future. Based on two things: 1) We're short on recruits, but our entire starting OL (outside of Fragel) is coming back next year, so that buys us another year to clean up the ones we have and build through the 2014 class (we have a lot of feelers out there as well). 2) Ed Warinner has done an AMAZING job with the OL we have. Our OL was probably our weakness last year, they SUCKED. This year they have likely been our strength--that's entirely on Warinner imo.

    A recruit like Dorian Johnson is going to Pitt in part because Chryst has a reputation for putting OL in the NFL. Ohio State has to rebuild a reputation for putting OL in the NFL before we start getting those OL recruits again.

    So your saying this thread will be ongoing for atleast the next year....AWESOME toot

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    Awink2

  • urbs doin' work, son!

    Wolverines89

  • HelloHeisman 21 said...

    Bob Lichtenfels‏@BobLichtenfels

    5-star Dorian Johnson did texted current commit Scott Orndoff and he has committed to #Pitt

    God bless us, every one.

    roflmao

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    CMXI

  • neoavatara said...

    And this thread lives on...

    For a smile they can share the night,
    It goes on, and on, and on, and on....

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    CMXI