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SonnyD said...
You just lost all your credibility. Haha!
Yeah, JT and Bollman were KNOWN for coaching and pumping out great lineman. Wow! And the things Warriner has done with this Oline are astronomical from how Bollman left them. It's been very well documented by the media and Meyer himself. Clueless apparently when it comes to tOSU you are
Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground..
Damaged goods
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maize&blue21 said...
Do you think your coaches are going to say that Decker is bad? You usually can tell how they will play out, as long as they have a consistent work ethic. Every player has a ceiling, it's up to the coaches to help them reach that ceiling and their work ethic dictates whether they have the opportunity to reach it. I'm not saying the kids I listed don't have the work ethic, but I don't see a high ceiling for any of them.
Dodson is the only one I could see become a solid contributor.
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maize&blue21 said...
Do you think your coaches are going to say that Decker is bad? You usually can tell how they will play out, as long as they have a consistent work ethic. Every player has a ceiling, it's up to the coaches to help them reach that ceiling and their work ethic dictates whether they have the opportunity to reach it. I'm not saying the kids I listed don't have the work ethic, but I don't see a high ceiling for any of them.
Dodson is the only one I could see become a solid contributor.
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a2brutus said...
the difference is that brax is actually doing it (performing extremely well and is 6-0 in div.1 football),
shane is still in high school...the kid is great, i will give him that, but we wont know for sure how good until he plays for um which could be 2 yrs from now...
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a2brutus said...
i like denard and think he's a great runner, but running qb's do have a greater risk of getting hurt (braxton included)...so far (fingers crossed) neither has sustained a season or career ending injury (altho brax has been close a few times already)...
denard has only 7-8 games left before he leaves and has dodged the big bullet, braxton has 21/2 yrs and i will be the first to say he will get hurt if he runs 20 plus times per game for that time...
it's a double edged sword, their legs are what win us the games, but they take a lot of hits getting there...
we have not beat any elite teams, we wont know for sure until the season ends how good/bad msu, cal, nebraska etc are because the conf. play just started...we can only play the schedule ahead of us, cal was very good when we scheduled them a few yrs ago...
have we had some close games? for sure, and we will have more, but getting a w is what really matters...i dont believe in good losses or bad wins...
i remember our n/c season run, we had something like 6 games won by less then a td (including a last second td against purdue)...
12-0 is not that unlikely anymore (w's against 2 of our 5 toughest games already) and "should" be favored against psu, um and whisky...that would not be a bad start for the urban meyer era!
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a2brutus said...
i like denard and think he's a great runner, but running qb's do have a greater risk of getting hurt (braxton included)...so far (fingers crossed) neither has sustained a season or career ending injury (altho brax has been close a few times already)...
denard has only 7-8 games left before he leaves and has dodged the big bullet, braxton has 21/2 yrs and i will be the first to say he will get hurt if he runs 20 plus times per game for that time...
it's a double edged sword, their legs are what win us the games, but they take a lot of hits getting there...
we have not beat any elite teams, we wont know for sure until the season ends how good/bad msu, cal, nebraska etc are because the conf. play just started...we can only play the schedule ahead of us, cal was very good when we scheduled them a few yrs ago...
have we had some close games? for sure, and we will have more, but getting a w is what really matters...i dont believe in good losses or bad wins...
i remember our n/c season run, we had something like 6 games won by less then a td (including a last second td against purdue)...
12-0 is not that unlikely anymore (w's against 2 of our 5 toughest games already) and "should" be favored against psu, um and whisky...that would not be a bad start for the urban meyer era!
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MrWoodson said...
OSU will win 10 or 11 games this year, just like we did in year one under Brady Hoke. The real question is whether you will make any coaching changes on the defensive side of the ball after the season is over. Your defense took a minor step backward last year. Some of that probably had to do with the loss of the Vest, but IMO much of it was simply the fact your offense was awful the first half of the season due to having all your best offensive players suspended and having a true freshman QB. That put extra pressure on your D (and made it look worse statistically than it really was). But this year, for whatever reason, your defense has taken a further giant step backward. Urbie won at Florida with talented offensive skill players AND an excellent defense. He would not have won without both. And when he accepted the job in Columbus, the first person he should have retained was Jim Heacock. Why he didn't is anyone's guess, but the triumvirate of Fickell/Withers/Vrabel is not getting the job done. Does Urbie have the balls to admit he made a mistake and fire/replace some or all of them? We will see. But my prediction is that if all three come back to OSU as coaches next season, OSU will continue to struggle on D.
You have done it now MrWoodson. Brutus was swearing up and down that Ohio State's Defense was head and shoulders above Michigan's just a couple weeks ago. WillyWolverine ●
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BestoftheBig said...
I'm not talking shit...just the opposite...I don't see any way possible we can beat you guys....You're entire offensive line 3 deep sound like they will be starting in the NFL...and none of ours can block a box of tissue...
I believe, and it's just my opinion, that our line is playing better in their first year together than any line we've had in the last 10 years...but still probably not good enough to move any of your DL...but I can dream can't I?
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MrWoodson said...
OSU will win 10 or 11 games this year, just like we did in year one under Brady Hoke. The real question is whether you will make any coaching changes on the defensive side of the ball after the season is over. Your defense took a minor step backward last year. Some of that probably had to do with the loss of the Vest, but IMO much of it was simply the fact your offense was awful the first half of the season due to having all your best offensive players suspended and having a true freshman QB. That put extra pressure on your D (and made it look worse statistically than it really was). But this year, for whatever reason, your defense has taken a further giant step backward. Urbie won at Florida with talented offensive skill players AND an excellent defense. He would not have won without both. And when he accepted the job in Columbus, the first person he should have retained was Jim Heacock. Why he didn't is anyone's guess, but the triumvirate of Fickell/Withers/Vrabel is not getting the job done. Does Urbie have the balls to admit he made a mistake and fire/replace some or all of them? We will see. But my prediction is that if all three come back to OSU as coaches next season, OSU will continue to struggle on D.
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stechs02 said...
If your a Buckeye Fan, I'll jump off the leveque tower in downtown Columbus! YOU ARE EMBARRASSING! You don’t see any way we will beat Michigan?? That made me laugh out loud. I’m not saying we will beat Michigan, but there is a damn good chance we could. I’m not going to get into why I think we have a great shot at a W because OSU and Michigan fans arguing about which team is better is like pissing in the wind. I’ll let the coaches and players decide who is better. But you are a disgrace if I have ever saw one if you are who you say you are, a true Buckeye fan. I can’t believe you Michigan fans let this dumbass post hear, but I’m glad he is here and I haven’t seen him on Bucknuts. What an embarrassment. You guys would think the same if a Michigan fan said he doesn’t see any way Michigan can beat OSU this year. What a joke. Best of luck to you guys and here’s to hoping you are 9-2 rolling into Columbus and we are 11-0. I miss the good old ranked games! Go Bucks!
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a2brutus said...
yes, and you are correct willy, however, in the big scheme of things after the regular season and into the bowls those bad wins are forgotten (mostly)
i posted this earlier, but the yr the bucks won the n/c we had MANY ugly wins and thru the yrs we have almost lost to navy, cincy, marshall, ohio u etc...not to mention some big ten teams we shoulda beat easily, like illinois and purdue...
if msu is to run the table from here and win the rose those close games to em and indy wont mean anything...
same with um's close one to air force, win the rose and nobody will even remember that game
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