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buckUBlue said...
Not totally true. No rational person can argue with your OL haul. OSU was hoping to offer at camp this summer as there is not alot of film on Lisle pass blocking due to the offense his school runs. Bama jumped in last night with an offer and that prompted the Bucks to speed things up. But sure you guys have 10 OT's in this class so we better get in on somebody.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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buttesnake said...
Meyer has offered only 9 offensive linemen so far.
OL Logan Tuley-Tillman Committed to MichiganOL Chris Fox Committed to MichiganOL Jake Raulerson Committed to TexasOL Hunter Bivin OL Evan Lisle OL Ethan Pocic OL Marcell Lazard OL John Montelus OL Derwin Gray
All of the uncommitted, except Gray, have Michigan offers, and they all have a ton of offers from other fine schools. Hoke still has a spot open. What's going to happen here, will Meyer do well with these guys or is he going to have to go to plan B?
Meyer better hurry because 5 of the top 8, and 8 of the top 14 OTs have already committed. Also, 2 of the top 3 OGs have committed.
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Hello, my screen name is Richard Parker and I am a crazed Buckeyes fan. That being said I like to keep discussions civil and am interested in different perspectives even if I get hit with some shrapnel just for posting here.
I saw some questions regarding what OSU looks for in OLs. My impression is Meyer is really driving the bus here more than Warinner. Having listened to and read a countless number of interviews at this point what Meyer is very clear on is he has a prototypical OL - "long, lean" guys. He really focuses on that body type. In fact, there are three OLs on the current roster who he has on pretty severe weight loss programs, and at least one is at risk of being kicked off the team for lack of progress. Moreover, one of the TEs, Reid Fragel, is being moved to OT this year, so there's a lot of evidence to support Meyer's strong preference for that body type.
I don't, and I don't think most Buckeye fans would, dispute the fact that you guys are crushing it with OL recruiting this year. You've really landed an incredible haul so congratulations. I consider OL the biggest need for OSU this year, so the haul stings twice as much for me as it would for any other position. OSU really needs to land some solid OL guys soon in my mind to give some momentum and help with skill player recruiting.
You guys are the experts here, but why do you think you've been able to recruit the OL so well and quickly this year on top of a solid year last year, especially relative to a lot of your other position needs? Did these guys all know each other, is Morris a huge recruiting ringleader that's been pulling the class together, is it the style of offense that is appealing, lifelong Michigan fans, etc.? I'd love to hear your takes.
I honestly do think that most Buckeye fans genuinely don't mind losing the other Ohio guys you've signed, though, with the exception of Thomas. Way, way before Taco committed to Michigan there were threads on Bucknuts expressing how overrated he was as a player and how he was disappointed he wasn't getting any love from OSU's current or prior staff. At WR, we've already got Marshall (probably some sort of hybrid RB/WR), looking great with Gibson and have a solid shot with Foster, with optionality in a few other places so Dukes wasn't considered a loss. He wasn't even on the radar. People think we're likely to get Heuerman (brother plays at OSU) with a very outside shot at Breneman so no loss with Butt. We offered Shallman, but with very limited schollies and with our 2012 DE haul, personally I'm somewhat glad he didn't fill a spot. In my mind either we get a top, top guy there or no-one. Any of these guys you took could turn out to be fantastic and could fill needs for Michigan that did or didn't exist for OSU, but if you think that OSU fans just have sour grapes b/c these players committed to Michigan I just don't think that's accurate.
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richardparker10 said...
Hello, my screen name is Richard Parker and I am a crazed Buckeyes fan. That being said I like to keep discussions civil and am interested in different perspectives even if I get hit with some shrapnel just for posting here.
I saw some questions regarding what OSU looks for in OLs. My impression is Meyer is really driving the bus here more than Warinner. Having listened to and read a countless number of interviews at this point what Meyer is very clear on is he has a prototypical OL - "long, lean" guys. He really focuses on that body type. In fact, there are three OLs on the current roster who he has on pretty severe weight loss programs, and at least one is at risk of being kicked off the team for lack of progress. Moreover, one of the TEs, Reid Fragel, is being moved to OT this year, so there's a lot of evidence to support Meyer's strong preference for that body type.
I don't, and I don't think most Buckeye fans would, dispute the fact that you guys are crushing it with OL recruiting this year. You've really landed an incredible haul so congratulations. I consider OL the biggest need for OSU this year, so the haul stings twice as much for me as it would for any other position. OSU really needs to land some solid OL guys soon in my mind to give some momentum and help with skill player recruiting.
You guys are the experts here, but why do you think you've been able to recruit the OL so well and quickly this year on top of a solid year last year, especially relative to a lot of your other position needs? Did these guys all know each other, is Morris a huge recruiting ringleader that's been pulling the class together, is it the style of offense that is appealing, lifelong Michigan fans, etc.? I'd love to hear your takes.
I honestly do think that most Buckeye fans genuinely don't mind losing the other Ohio guys you've signed, though, with the exception of Thomas. Way, way before Taco committed to Michigan there were threads on Bucknuts expressing how overrated he was as a player and how he was disappointed he wasn't getting any love from OSU's current or prior staff. At WR, we've already got Marshall (probably some sort of hybrid RB/WR), looking great with Gibson and have a solid shot with Foster, with optionality in a few other places so Dukes wasn't considered a loss. He wasn't even on the radar. People think we're likely to get Heuerman (brother plays at OSU) with a very outside shot at Breneman so no loss with Butt. We offered Shallman, but with very limited schollies and with our 2012 DE haul, personally I'm somewhat glad he didn't fill a spot. In my mind either we get a top, top guy there or no-one. Any of these guys you took could turn out to be fantastic and could fill needs for Michigan that did or didn't exist for OSU, but if you think that OSU fans just have sour grapes b/c these players committed to Michigan I just don't think that's accurate.
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Hello, my screen name is Richard Parker and I am a crazed Buckeyes fan. That being said I like to keep discussions civil and am interested in different perspectives even if I get hit with some shrapnel just for posting here.
I saw some questions regarding what OSU looks for in OLs. My impression is Meyer is really driving the bus here more than Warinner. Having listened to and read a countless number of interviews at this point what Meyer is very clear on is he has a prototypical OL - "long, lean" guys. He really focuses on that body type. In fact, there are three OLs on the current roster who he has on pretty severe weight loss programs, and at least one is at risk of being kicked off the team for lack of progress. Moreover, one of the TEs, Reid Fragel, is being moved to OT this year, so there's a lot of evidence to support Meyer's strong preference for that body type.
I don't, and I don't think most Buckeye fans would, dispute the fact that you guys are crushing it with OL recruiting this year. You've really landed an incredible haul so congratulations. I consider OL the biggest need for OSU this year, so the haul stings twice as much for me as it would for any other position. OSU really needs to land some solid OL guys soon in my mind to give some momentum and help with skill player recruiting.
You guys are the experts here, but why do you think you've been able to recruit the OL so well and quickly this year on top of a solid year last year, especially relative to a lot of your other position needs? Did these guys all know each other, is Morris a huge recruiting ringleader that's been pulling the class together, is it the style of offense that is appealing, lifelong Michigan fans, etc.? I'd love to hear your takes.
I honestly do think that most Buckeye fans genuinely don't mind losing the other Ohio guys you've signed, though, with the exception of Thomas. Way, way before Taco committed to Michigan there were threads on Bucknuts expressing how overrated he was as a player and how he was disappointed he wasn't getting any love from OSU's current or prior staff. At WR, we've already got Marshall (probably some sort of hybrid RB/WR), looking great with Gibson and have a solid shot with Foster, with optionality in a few other places so Dukes wasn't considered a loss. He wasn't even on the radar. People think we're likely to get Heuerman (brother plays at OSU) with a very outside shot at Breneman so no loss with Butt. We offered Shallman, but with very limited schollies and with our 2012 DE haul, personally I'm somewhat glad he didn't fill a spot. In my mind either we get a top, top guy there or no-one. Any of these guys you took could turn out to be fantastic and could fill needs for Michigan that did or didn't exist for OSU, but if you think that OSU fans just have sour grapes b/c these players committed to Michigan I just don't think that's accurate.
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Hello, my screen name is Richard Parker and I am a crazed Buckeyes fan. That being said I like to keep discussions civil and am interested in different perspectives even if I get hit with some shrapnel just for posting here.
I saw some questions regarding what OSU looks for in OLs. My impression is Meyer is really driving the bus here more than Warinner. Having listened to and read a countless number of interviews at this point what Meyer is very clear on is he has a prototypical OL - "long, lean" guys. He really focuses on that body type. In fact, there are three OLs on the current roster who he has on pretty severe weight loss programs, and at least one is at risk of being kicked off the team for lack of progress. Moreover, one of the TEs, Reid Fragel, is being moved to OT this year, so there's a lot of evidence to support Meyer's strong preference for that body type.
I don't, and I don't think most Buckeye fans would, dispute the fact that you guys are crushing it with OL recruiting this year. You've really landed an incredible haul so congratulations. I consider OL the biggest need for OSU this year, so the haul stings twice as much for me as it would for any other position. OSU really needs to land some solid OL guys soon in my mind to give some momentum and help with skill player recruiting.
You guys are the experts here, but why do you think you've been able to recruit the OL so well and quickly this year on top of a solid year last year, especially relative to a lot of your other position needs? Did these guys all know each other, is Morris a huge recruiting ringleader that's been pulling the class together, is it the style of offense that is appealing, lifelong Michigan fans, etc.? I'd love to hear your takes.
I honestly do think that most Buckeye fans genuinely don't mind losing the other Ohio guys you've signed, though, with the exception of Thomas. Way, way before Taco committed to Michigan there were threads on Bucknuts expressing how overrated he was as a player and how he was disappointed he wasn't getting any love from OSU's current or prior staff. At WR, we've already got Marshall (probably some sort of hybrid RB/WR), looking great with Gibson and have a solid shot with Foster, with optionality in a few other places so Dukes wasn't considered a loss. He wasn't even on the radar. People think we're likely to get Heuerman (brother plays at OSU) with a very outside shot at Breneman so no loss with Butt. We offered Shallman, but with very limited schollies and with our 2012 DE haul, personally I'm somewhat glad he didn't fill a spot. In my mind either we get a top, top guy there or no-one. Any of these guys you took could turn out to be fantastic and could fill needs for Michigan that did or didn't exist for OSU, but if you think that OSU fans just have sour grapes b/c these players committed to Michigan I just don't think that's accurate.
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RBWolverine said...
With regard to our OL recruiting I would add that I think that part of it is Funk (our OL coach) being a phenomenal recruiter. We've had a head start on a lot of these guys, and he's built tremendous relationships with them. Other coaches have, too, but I think he deserves a ton of credit.
I'll be curious how running the spread impacts your OL recruiting, because I think our move toward a pro style with more of a power running game has also aided our OL recruiting. It doesn't matter to all OLinemen, but I think a lot of them prefer that stye.
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With regard to our OL recruiting I would add that I think that part of it is Funk (our OL coach) being a phenomenal recruiter. We've had a head start on a lot of these guys, and he's built tremendous relationships with them. Other coaches have, too, but I think he deserves a ton of credit.
I'll be curious how running the spread impacts your OL recruiting, because I think our move toward a pro style with more of a power running game has also aided our OL recruiting. It doesn't matter to all OLinemen, but I think a lot of them prefer that stye.
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MrWoodson said...
I don't want to get into OL recruiting, because others have answered your question better than I can, but I just want to thank you for being civil. I read a lot of posts by Bucknuts members complaining (celebrating???) over getting banned over here. If all posters were like you, no one would be banned. We welcome posters like you. I hope you will pass this on.
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richardparker10 said...
That's a fair point. Our previous OL coach, Jim Bollman, just seemed to give up over the last few years and I'm willing to bet formed very few, if any, 2013 class relationships. That's probably hurting us with early signings on the OL at a minimum.
I think you'll see much more of a power running game under Meyer than conventional wisdom would hold. Certainly much more than under Rich Rod at Michigan. Meyer just wasn't getting the big RBs down in FL for whatever reason so was forced to use Tebow in the role. I think he also is haunted by the loss to AL in the SEC Championship and has taken lessons away from it. He's talked a lot about having a power running game for sure and seems focused on it, as are the OCs. Pro-teams also are pretty pass heavy these days, so Meyer probably stresses that aspect to OL recruits is my guess.
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