Wolverine247 Board

IMO two years no t.v., no bowls.

I want the people who covered it up punished legally. Criminal charges. Like as in people go to prison. Civil lawsuits. How am i not punishing anyone if i want people in prison? Prison seems like more of a punishment than punishing the football program.

Stop using the abuse and emotional side of this to argue a case. Yes those in charge of the university at the time attempted to cover up the abuse. That part has been rhashed hundreds of times. They are or will be trie d through the court system and not the NCAA. The NCA's job is to uphold it bylaws not to enforce ethical behavior amongst its members. You can spin it anyway you want emotionally but the fact remains it isn't the NCAA 's job to do this. We have courts and law for a reason.

If a father killed a boy who was stalking his daughter, should the daughter be punished? Punishing the motive for a crime makes no sense.

I gotta say the the cover up seemed to protect a lot more than the football program, the careers of Paterno, Shultz and Curley and the prestige of the university in general.

If the facts about this would have been made known in 2001, the football program would have taken a minor hit as Paterno would have been let go, but I think the cover up was more about protecting those who were involved in 1998.

The university is already gonna be hit with millions in lawsuits, and I just don't see what is accomplished by punishing current players and coaching staff.

What possible sanctions could the NCAA impose that wouldn't be nearly meaningless to what PSU faces already? Is there gonna be a university that would not permit a child rapist into their program because the NCAA hit Penn State with a bowl ban?

When CEO's make terrible decisions who loses their jobs?

That's life, people in powerful positions with great responsibility make decisions that could positively or negatively affect innocent people. (Enron amongst others)

I think it's more about lying that enabled the action of a monster.

Most programs lie about what's going on anyways. Why do anything to change that precedent?

Is there going to be another program lie and cover up other heinous crimes to protect their programs when the NCAA does nothing?

Just got to make it to the fourteen year mark.

EDIT: Forget that, nothing you've said is worth writing a response to anymore. Obviously just being stubborn, and repeating points that people have already denounced. Frankly, you're only giving opinion, and it's one that doesn't matter even an iota.

EDIT: Already addressed all this. Not worth it.

Analogies are always logically problematic. Both of our comparisons are apples and oranges. The real issue here is that this was an institutional cover up. The INSTITUTION acted to protect a PART OF THE INSTITUTION. The INSTITUTION should be punished. Since the common denominator in all of these actors was the football program, this the most appropriate target for punishment. Furthermore, it was this part of the INSTITUTION that was most directly involved with the ethics violations that the NCAA has jurisdiction to penalize them. As I've previously stated, run them through the wringer of criminal and civil court, but the NCAA has the power and the right to punish them, and should. Universities have always been held to higher ethical standards and their sports programs should be no exception.

Additionally, by levying penalties on this program, the NCAA is giving the PSU program an opportunity to publicly redeem itself. By allowing them to continue without any sort of penance to the community, there will always be a stain on their program, and anyone who chooses to play with PSU, while the criminal prosecution and civil litigation is being processed.