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Agreed, and this 4 team playoff is gives me hope we will get to that some day.

Our AD is like everyone else. He is entitled to his opinion about whether he prefers a playoff to the traditional bowl system or not. And just because he publicly states a preference for the bowl system, it does not follow that such preference derives from a belief that UM cannot play with the big boys. And for a poster who is notorious for trolling UM fans on tBB (and who was finally banned for doing so) to come to the UM board and suggest otherwise is trolling.

FWIW, you are not even right mathematically, as Nigel has pointed out. The reduced odds that any team has in winning a 4-team playoff compared to a single game for all the marbles is exactly offset by the increased probability of making it into a 4-team versus a 2-team field. You need to dust off your old probability textbook and brush up.

Exactly. And the neutral fans would be pulling for the B1G instead of the southern teams. Listen to the stadiums in SEC country when B1G teams play them. Huge home field crowd/noise advantage.

We disagree. It's my belief that the AD at Michigan is doing his job. No dig is meant by this. Until we have a more perfect system, every AD should fight for what's going to benefit their school more. On a side note, I do believe the SEC is the strongest conference. That's not a shot at MSU or Wisconsin or OSU or PSU or UM or Nebraska. All of those schools have decent competitive squads more than capable of beating the sec on any given day as of now. I just think the sec is a pretty damn good conference top to bottom right now.

I'm also in the line that says Michigan can beat bama next fall if your defense can win the day and Borgess finds a way to shorten the game. Like I say, a punchers chance.

Again, it's my belief he's trying to do what's best for his school. We obviously disagree. You can continue your stuff about trolling or unreadable posts, it just doesn't matter to me. I think he's doing what's best for Michigan. If you find that upsetting, I apologize.

I think it's brilliant on your AD's part as far as the band goes. Two truths here: 1. The band will be there 2. He'll get donations to cover it now. The 400 k he saves is an Olympic sport cost for the year I bet. the band will be playing the fight song in Dallas.

Who are "we"? And I have no interest in your fabricated beliefs as to the ulterior motives of our AD in not favoring a playoff. He has repeatedly spoken on the subject and given his reasoning and not once has he said it is because a playoff will hurt UM's chances of winning a national championship. The reality is many people do not favor a playoff and the vast majority are not ADs. And there are numerous pros and cons to both the traditional bowl system and to a playoff that have absolutely nothing to do with the odds of winning a national championship.

In fact, if you go to Bama Online, you will find several threads debating the same issue and, surprise, some Bama fans are not in favor of a playoff either. Are they afraid of a playoff, too? Why aren't you over on their board explaining to them that they do not favor a playoff because they are afraid of the B10? I would love to lurk and see how well you are received. Similarly, if I went to rcmb right now and started a thread asking if the reason that Mark Hollis favors a playoff is that it will improve MSU's chances of making a major bowl game, how long would I last?

I strongly believe that the band was always going to be going to that game, one way or another. I would be willing to bet a lot of donor money was brought in on this "stunt." A common quote is there is no such thing as bad press. I would have to agree with that.

The fairness comes into play in the same way it does now. How do you pick the 4 teams? Would you have chosen Standord over Oregon last year even though Oregon won the Pac last year? Do you only take conference champs which would of left out what turned out to be the best team in Bama? If so, which conference champs? Do the non BCS conference teams like Boise get a chance? All you are doing with a 4 team playoff is adding 2 more teams but you still have the same BS of humans choosing to put in teams they "think" are better than other teams who are just as deserving.

In my opinion you either go to a 16 team playoff or ditch the BCS all together and go back to the original Bowl system. With 16 teams in a playoff no really deserving team would be left out.

OSU lost to a 6-6 Iowa State. They don't have a defense. It doesn't take a genius to figure out who would win that game. Look no further than Vegas odds. OSU would have been a 10 pt underdog against LSU. Could have OSU won? Sure its possible, but it would have been an upset and I am challenge anyone to disagree. Stanford got beat up pretty badly by Oregon and LSU handled Oregon.

Now you do bring up the root issue that many people have. The thought of earning it. The BCS was built to have the best football team in the country be crowned the champion. I think it has succeeded in that. I don't think it has been a failure if you look at this way.

Now if you want a team to "earn it," then a playoff system is probably best. However, most teams earn it every week of the regular season in the current system. Like basketball, luck plays more of a role in a playoff system.

Again, I am not interested in your beliefs about our AD's "true" motives on any subject. And I'm certaintly not interested in your condescendingly insincere apologies for trolling our board. What I am interested in is having you stop doing it. And if it bothers you that I am calling you out on it, I apologize.