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Who should we schedule now that the ND series is over?

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Would love Texas or Oklahoma, but with the B12 now playing 9 conference games a year they only have 3 OOC games to play with. UT is full all three years 2015-2017 and Oklahoma is full in 2015. Oklahoma also already plays OSU in 2016 & 2017, so it's unlikely they will want to play us those years.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    I gotcha, and that makes sense - thanks for clarifying. Especially in the BCS conferences that can only play three OOC games, many of those schools will only be willing to play one "hard" OOC game. You make a great point that it'll definitely be more difficult for schools like Michigan to find a quality OOC opponent now.

    This is why realignment is bad for the fans and college football in general. It locks up teams into a limited pool of opponents (within a conference) while curtailing flexibility & innovation (OOC games).

    Limiting competition while restricting freedom is not the American way. Realignment is therefore un-American.

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  • fars1d3s said...

    This is why realignment is bad for the fans and college football in general. It locks up teams into a limited pool of opponents (within a conference) while curtailing flexibility & innovation (OOC games).

    Limiting competition while restricting freedom is not the American way. Realignment is therefore un-American.

    I definitely see what you're saying here. On one hand, it'd be best for conferences to only be able to play eight conference games, as that would preserve the four OC games. But on the other hand, you'd also like to play as many of your conference foes as possible.

    Ideally, the playoff system can help remedy this problem, as fans will get to see primetime OOC matchups in the postseason, rather than in September. This will be especially so if/when the playoff field expands to 8 or more.

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  • This conference realignment gobbles up teams from other conferences not on the basis of geography or football tradition, but on the basis on money and TV market. It's very similar to the banking industry where banks like Citigroup, JPMorganChase and Bank of America gobble up other banks. Do you think this is good for the consumers? Too big to fail is good for banks?

    Well, then join me in demanding some banking regulation and break up those banks, as well as those super conferences. Gotta do what's right.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    How about Rutgers or Pitt? Both are in prime Penn State territories, so now may be a great time from a recruiting standpoint for Michigan to build more of a presence in both places.

    I wouldn't mind Michigan playing Pitt in a home and home series.

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  • Bama: would bring in a ton of recruits and a ton of money to the programs not sure about the match up with the recruits they are landing. But what the hell ....would be a wonderful rivalry if we could keep the games closer the the last one.

    Tenn: I would love to beat them and its close to the house. Huge stadium to bring in Tv ratings money and recruits.

    Arkansas : A decent SEC school and even closer to the house. We already got them in basketball and they would do a home away .

    Cal: great area for recruiting and also a winnable game

    NC: again great recruiting grounds and a winnable game as well

    Arizona: no way could be a bad loss, the risk out weighs the reward

    USC: great recruiting as well but also could be a backfire.

    Florida: Could be a great rivalry but not sure about them even doing it.

    Ole Miss : love this match up and would be a great venue for away games...again close to the house...

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  • Frank C said...

    I wouldn't mind Michigan playing Pitt in a home and home series.

    I like it, too. It's not quite as much of a marquee matchup as some other opponents are, but Michigan can schedule other OOC games as well. Pitt would be a winnable game against a (generally) quality opponent, and could help the Wolverines even further in terms of recruiting Western PA.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    I definitely see what you're saying here. On one hand, it'd be best for conferences to only be able to play eight conference games, as that would preserve the four OC games. But on the other hand, you'd also like to play as many of your conference foes as possible.

    Ideally, the playoff system can help remedy this problem, as fans will get to see primetime OOC matchups in the postseason, rather than in September. This will be especially so if/when the playoff field expands to 8 or more.

    I really hope the playoff eventually expands to 16, would love to see some of the smaller schools that manage to build good teams (like Boise) atleast get a shot.

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  • Frank C said...

    I wouldn't mind Michigan playing Pitt in a home and home series.

    yea I wouldn't mind that with them or Rutgers, both are in pretty fertile recruiting grounds and couldn't hurt for those kids to see Michigan play.

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  • Hoke Express said...

    I really hope the playoff eventually expands to 16, would love to see some of the smaller schools that manage to build good teams (like Boise) atleast get a shot.

    I think those schools now have a decent shot of making it. Multiple non-BCS schools have entered the postseason in the top-4, so theoretically, those schools would qualify for the four team playoff system. And with 8 teams, there's almost no way a non-BCS school that went undefeated and beat some solid BCS teams would be left out.

    I certainly wouldn't complain about a 16 team field, but I actually heard a pretty good argument against it the other day. If you think about it, a team that starts the year in the top-5 (USC, Alabama, etc.) would have a decent shot of qualifying for a 16 team playoff with as many as three losses. Whereas with an 8 (or 4) team field, the regular season really doesn't lose any significance.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    I think those schools now have a decent shot of making it. Multiple non-BCS schools have entered the postseason in the top-4, so theoretically, those schools would qualify for the four team playoff system. And with 8 teams, there's almost no way a non-BCS school that went undefeated and beat some solid BCS teams would be left out.

    I certainly wouldn't complain about a 16 team field, but I actually heard a pretty good argument against it the other day. If you think about it, a team that starts the year in the top-5 (USC, Alabama, etc.) would have a decent shot of qualifying for a 16 team playoff with as many as three losses. Whereas with an 8 (or 4) team field, the regular season really doesn't lose any significance.

    Agreed....16 is too many, it waters down the regular season, and allows those with 3 or more losses the ability to make the post season. With 8 you really weed out those teams who have more then 2 losses.

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  • Awink2 said...

    Agreed....16 is too many, it waters down the regular season, and allows those with 3 or more losses the ability to make the post season. With 8 you really weed out those teams who have more then 2 losses.

    Yep. And ideally, the 8-team playoff format would give the higher seeds home-field advantage at least in the first round. So even though you could still potentially make the playoffs with two losses, you'd still want to do everything in your power to have home-field advantage in the first round.

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  • I'd be very happy with Pitt or Rutgers, but is anyone else thinking that David Brandon may be gunning for the biggest name that is willing to agree?

    UMFB

  • I think the homerun is Tennessee. They are a traditional power in the SEC, but are a dumpster fire so we'd get a lot of hype for beating them and it would help with recruiting in the south.

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  • I hope that the college football playoffs never expand beyond the 8 game format. The playoffs should be for the absolute elite.

    Could a great team get left out in a given season? Sure.

    I can see a case for a 12 team playoff (which would mirror the NFL playoffs) but I just can't see one for a 16 team playoff.

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  • msucan'tmakebcs said...

    I think the homerun is Tennessee. They are a traditional power in the SEC, but are a dumpster fire so we'd get a lot of hype for beating them and it would help with recruiting in the south.

    Great points about Tennessee. My only concern is that the in-state talent in Tennessee isn't very good. But in terms of potentially hammering an SEC school with a lot of tradition, that's an excellent choice.

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  • Frank C said...

    I hope that the college football playoffs never expand beyond the 8 game format. The playoffs should be for the absolute elite.

    Could a great team get left out in a given season? Sure.

    I can see a case for a 12 team playoff (which would mirror the NFL playoffs) but I just can't see one for a 16 team playoff.

    I'd be fine with them leaving it at 8 (assuming it ever expands to that point). That being said, I'd much rather 16 or 32 than the current system of 0. As it gets bigger and bigger (if that happens), I think one major key is to give home-field advantage to the higher seed for as many rounds as possible. That way, you're still rewarding the teams that perform better in the regular season.

    This post was edited by Todd Worly on 10/2/2012 at 12:01 AM

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  • Todd Worly said...

    I'd be fine with them leaving it at 8 (assuming it ever expands to that point). That being said, I'd much rather 16 or 32 than the current system of 0. As it gets bigger and bigger (if that happens), I think one major key is to give home-field advantage to the higher seed for as many rounds as possible. That way, you're still rewarding the teams that perform better in the regular season.

    This is what I want.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    This is what I want.

    It'll be interesting to see if that actually happens, though. I could definitely see the warm weather schools throwing an absolute fit if they're faced with the prospect of playing a game in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, etc in December/January.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    It'll be interesting to see if that actually happens, though. I could definitely see the warm weather schools throwing an absolute fit if they're faced with the prospect of playing a game in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, etc in December/January.

    I don't think it'll happen. First the Bowls will try and throw more money at the conferences/schools to keep themselves relevant/solvant. Because of this the conferences will keep the playoff as small as possible, until there is an outcry from us again to expand it. Even then it'll happen slowly, from 4 to 6, then 8 then maybe even 10. This will keep fans happy and bowls happy.

    The B1G will try to get playoff games to be campus sites, trying to remove some of the travel burden on its fans. However, because the B1G is the only conference without a warm weather destination, it'll cave as it did this time around and will agree to play the playoff games in the bowls/south. Forever cementing playoff road games as a possible "home team." The only way the southern schools would agree to play playoff games in the north would be if the B1G would agree that those games have to be played in the closest dome. It's likely that the championship game will be won by a number of Midwestern cities that have domes, so the arguement will be that if the weather is taken out of the equation for the championship it should be taken out in the playoffs as well.

    As much as I'd like there to be campus sites hosting playoff games as the D-1AA does, I don't see it happening because the "mighty" SEC won't be willing to let, say a 5th seed Florida go to 4th Seeded Michigan and lose a game they very well could have won because they won't be able to replicate for practice a frozen ball to catch, handoff or kick. There are enough warm to milder climate schools to get that off the table and into a dome, should "home field" become part of a playoff equation.

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  • Wingman3 said...

    I don't think it'll happen. First the Bowls will try and throw more money at the conferences/schools to keep themselves relevant/solvant. Because of this the conferences will keep the playoff as small as possible, until there is an outcry from us again to expand it. Even then it'll happen slowly, from 4 to 6, then 8 then maybe even 10. This will keep fans happy and bowls happy.

    The B1G will try to get playoff games to be campus sites, trying to remove some of the travel burden on its fans. However, because the B1G is the only conference without a warm weather destination, it'll cave as it did this time around and will agree to play the playoff games in the bowls/south. Forever cementing playoff road games as a possible "home team." The only way the southern schools would agree to play playoff games in the north would be if the B1G would agree that those games have to be played in the closest dome. It's likely that the championship game will be won by a number of Midwestern cities that have domes, so the arguement will be that if the weather is taken out of the equation for the championship it should be taken out in the playoffs as well.

    As much as I'd like there to be campus sites hosting playoff games as the D-1AA does, I don't see it happening because the "mighty" SEC won't be willing to let, say a 5th seed Florida go to 4th Seeded Michigan and lose a game they very well could have won because they won't be able to replicate for practice a frozen ball to catch, handoff or kick. There are enough warm to milder climate schools to get that off the table and into a dome, should "home field" become part of a playoff equation.

    Unfortunately, I completely agree with you that that's the most realistic scenario for how this will all play out.

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  • I would actually be entirely happy if it stays the 4 team format forever. I always felt that's perfect. I don't really want a large playoff just because everyone else has one, playoffs were solely created to make money for pro owners through extra home games and I think college football has a flair that is special. I'm no fan of this creeping professionalization of it all.

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  • I know I'm a tad late to the convo, but I think Oklahoma would be a great choice to replace ND with. I have always had respect for their team.

    Or we could play Arizona. stir

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