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What will Gedeon bring to Michigan?

  • Ducksworth said...

    roflmao

    That's fair. But I maintain, we will see. If that guy is wrong, I will come back an apologize like I've said.

    dkerns

  • dkerns said...

    That's fair. Our new staff values speed over almost anything else. Love is football fast. That's a reson why we didn't pursue Geodon, other than He said we didn't focus on academics while talking to him even though we stopped going after Bob Foster because he didn't want to hear about academics.

    Except you did pursue Gedeon...

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    Ducksworth

  • dkerns said...

    That's fair. But I maintain, we will see. If that guy is wrong, I will come back an apologize like I've said.

    I'll hold you to that. Thanks for coming over and maturely talking to us. We're both looking at awesome classes this year, no doubt about it. I'll take ours and I'm sure you'd take yours over ours, and that's what makes it fun.

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    Ducksworth

  • Ducksworth said...

    Except you did pursue Gedeon...

    We did, but we haven't for a couple weeks. I should of said stopped after he said that we didn't talk to him about academics.

    dkerns

  • Ducksworth said...

    I'll hold you to that. Thanks for coming over and maturely talking to us. We're both looking at awesome classes this year, no doubt about it. I'll take ours and I'm sure you'd take yours over ours, and that's what makes it fun.

    Yes, because our systems are different. That's fair I'll hold myself to that, the only reason I believe that is that is trusted said he is legit.

    dkerns

  • dkerns said...

    But we have others higher than Gedeon.

    According to what? Bucknuts writers? They have no way of knowing who is where on the board. Quotes from Gedeon are that he continually hears from Meyer and Fickell. You're still recruiting him.

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    Ducksworth

  • dkerns said...

    Yes, because our systems are different. That's fair I'll hold myself to that, the only reason I believe that is that is trusted said he is legit.

    Fair enough. I'm sure a lot of people are saying a lot of things. All I know is that he's been recruiting really hard for UM and is really close with a lot of our commits.

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  • Ducksworth said...

    According to what? Bucknuts writers? They have no way of knowing who is where on the board. Quotes from Gedeon are that he continually hears from Meyer and Fickell. You're still recruiting him.

    From Bucknuts writers, scout writers. I didn't know that because we rarely hear from Gedeon. Most bucknuters knew he was going to you guys from a while now. Nothing lost.

    I assume by the names that come up during articles, the more times they occur means the more we are recruiting him. We haven't heard from Gedeon very much.

    This post was edited by dkerns on 4/12/2012 at 6:23 PM

    dkerns

  • dkerns said...

    From Bucknuts writers, scout writers. I didn't know that because we rarely hear from Gedeon. Most bucknuters knew he was going to you guys from a while now. Nothing lost.

    I assume by the names that come up during articles, the more times they occur means the more we are recruiting him. We haven't heard from Gedeon very much.

    Nobody had heard from Gedeon much. He didn't talk before and had shut things down in the media for the last month or longer. That is why I said that nobody outside of the coaching staff can say that Ohio wanted a bunch of other linebackers over him. As far as the actual count of the offers that Urban has out is unknown. Even you guys claim that there are a bunch of offers left over from before Urban came and those are not real offers. This is info directly from bucknuts. Urban has been selective relative to the amount of talent in the home state. I wasn't shooting you down but some of the stuff you had heard was false so I pointed it out.

    LouHarlow

  • dkerns said...

    From what's been reported our line will be alright, but why will we have to replace of FB? I'm confused. I don't think we're running the I. Hyde's reports have been good, and Brionte's have been better so I don't think losing Herron is that bad. But their will be growing pains in the new system no doubt about that.

    I wasn't very clear, but the reason I mentioned Boren was strictly for blitz pickup and pass protection. Obviously you aren't running the I, so a fullback isn't important, just meant another veteran who could identify blitzers and give Braxton more time.

    Dizzo

  • dkerns said...

    What you guys don't realize is Meyer's trying to go national. It will allow you guys to get more quality recruits from Ohio. Tressell usually focused on Ohio. I wouldn't call it kicking his butt. The only guy that I want from your class that's from Ohio is Dymonte Thomas.(From what's being said on TOS, it appears that it's very highly likely, we do end up with Thomas at the end) That's all. We have a couple "Deveon Smith" types on the roster already. We need faster backs, speaking of we got one in Elliot. We got a TE from Cali, who fits our offense better than Butt did. We had a big LB hall last year. We're in it for Anzalone, and a couple others. Even though Smith will probably go to ND. Off the record, Hokes a good coach and a good recruiter, but I'll never say that to anyones face. lol

    This makes no sense to me. Are you saying that Urban Meyer didn't recruit at a "national" level at FL? Or are you saying that OSU didn't try and recruit at a "national" level before Meyer's hiring? I'm fairly certain I realize that Urban Meyer is trying to recruit out of state players. Are you suggesting that he is hoping to lure Hoke into taking EVERY player in Ohio, like a waving a red flag at a bull? Please. I'm not gonna get into an Urban bashing fest on this thread but it might be worth remembering Meyer's own comments on ESPN regarding Hoke snagging Mattison away from the Ravens, Meyer (who it might be added has some pretty decent first hand knowledge on this subject) called Mattison and this is a verbatim quote: "the best recruiter in college football".

    Just some food for thought. Cheers.

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    Kos

  • Someone should tell Dymonte Thomas he's going to be flipped so he stops recruiting so hard for Michigan's class.

    thevictor_11

  • dkerns said...

    we have others higher than Gedeon.

    I think Duck already responded to this, but I'd like to make it clearer, if it wasn't already.

    NO. OSU. DOESN'T. AND. NEVER. DID.

    Steve Wiltfong said in definite terms that as recently as two weeks ago Meyer was recruiting him as hard as anyone. He also said any notion that OSU offered him an uncommittable offer or slow-played him is downright false. And for whatever reason it was, our coaching staff made a decision Gedeon > Anzalone, Shane Jones, O'Daniel, and also Love. Who knows? Anzalone may turn out to be a better player than Gedeon. But we don't know that. Nobody knows that at this point. But we do know Michigan's coaching staff, who knows a thing or two about defense, made a decision to turn away Anzalone because Gedeon. Also we know OSU's coaches pursued Gedeon hard. And you come here throwing around all that Bucknuts' writers'("analysts") expertise? I'm surprised others here treated you with respect, because don't see how you deserved it.

    Nutcracker

  • Nutcracker said...

    I think Duck already responded to this, but I'd like to make it clearer, if it wasn't already.

    NO. OSU. DOESN'T. AND. NEVER. DID.

    Steve Wiltfong said in definite terms that as recently as two weeks ago Meyer was recruiting him as hard as anyone. He also said any notion that OSU offered him an uncommittable offer or slow-played him is downright false. And for whatever reason it was, our coaching staff made a decision Gedeon > Anzalone, Shane Jones, O'Daniel, and also Love. Who knows? Anzalone may turn out to be a better player than Gedeon. But we don't know that. Nobody knows that at this point. But we do know Michigan's coaching staff, who knows a thing or two about defense, made a decision to turn away Anzalone because Gedeon. Also we know OSU's coaches pursued Gedeon hard. And you come here throwing around all that Bucknuts' writers'("analysts") expertise? I'm surprised others here treated you with respect, because don't see how you deserved it.

    Crackin some nuts.

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    wolverineblue

  • wolverine.blue said...

    Crackin some nuts.

    Haha, you know it's a worthless nut. Can't eat 'em. Crack 'em and throw it away.

    Nutcracker