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star69 said...
Are you guys really that bothered about your LS's ranking? We signed the top LS in the country last year and it is what it is. If it makes you feel any better we have 2 scholarship LS's on this years roster..
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with your LS situation......Star, how many games are you expecting to win this season? I think 6 games would be formidable, and do you feel going .500 will disrupt this recruiting class, and/or when Brian Kelly becomes apoplectic? 
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It really doesn't matter to me how, or why, 247 does their rankings the way they do.
What matters is what Brady and his guys think and do in evaluating recruits. They know more football than any 'expert' for any of the recruiting websites. That's why they're employed as D-1 football coaches at a legendary program like Michigan, while the other guys post website stories for a living.
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Awink2 said...
Epic
with your LS situation......Star, how many games are you expecting to win this season? I think 6 games would be formidable, and do you feel going .500 will disrupt this recruiting class, and/or when Brian Kelly becomes apoplectic? 7/8 wins is what I've prepared myself for. I think this class is a very close knit group and don't see many jumping ship. If all hell breaks loose and we win 3 games, who knows?
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buttesnake said...
247 explains it thusly:
ExplanationEach recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula (a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
Readers familiar with the Gaussian distribution formula will note that we used the value 6 for σ because this was the standard deviation for total number of commits between schools as they were ranked during the 2011 recruitment year, the year this formula was developed. This standard deviation creates a bell curve with an inflection point near the average number of players recruited per team.
Below is a graphical representation of how our formula works. You can see that the area under the curve gets smaller both as the rating for a commit decreases and as the number of total commits for a school increases. The y-axis in this graph represents the percentage weight of the score that gets applied to an overall team ranking.
And I attempt to describe it in layman's terms in the linked thread.
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UMFB said...
We'd still be number one if offering a Long Snapper didn't tank our average numerical ranking by more than a whole point. For example, a 24 commit class with an unranked LS is weaker than a 23 commit class featuring the same players minus the LS. Does not make any sense, only way to keep it fair would be to not factor in ST players that are rarely ranked and, if so, are not higher than two stars. Taking the LS could very well put us out of a Top-5 finish just because of broken methodology. Basically, not taking a contributor is better for your ranking than taking an unranked or two-star recruit that at least has an opportunity to contribute in some way. In actuality, even a very minimal contribution is better than no contribution.
MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13
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inuyesta said...
I mean, it kind of does, it's all about perception isn't it? True or not, the perception is that the SEC dominates the football world and everyone else (especially any team in the B1G) is playing in the kiddie game down the street. That perception affects media coverage, rankings, bowl selections, and it's sure to affect this playoff committee's selections and seedings...and obv all of that affects recruiting and on-the-field results. If Michigan has the #2 or the #5 class (esp if Alabama or Florida winds up #1), then that's cool but it feeds into the perception that we're never quite going to get over the hump and be the best, and that perception can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. There's something about having the #1 class that breaks that barrier though. If you watched coverage of The Opening on ESPNU, Michigan was still ranked #1 then, and when the announcers were talking about it you could tell how impressive they thought that was and how much bigger of a deal it was than if we had been #2.
So, yeah, I think it matters. It's not the sort of thing that makes or breaks the world, but it is important.
MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13
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