Wolverine247 Board

We'd still be number one if offering a Long Snapper didn't tank our average numerical ranking by more than a whole point. For example, a 24 commit class with an unranked LS is weaker than a 23 commit class featuring the same players minus the LS. Does not make any sense, only way to keep it fair would be to not factor in ST players that are rarely ranked and, if so, are not higher than two stars. Taking the LS could very well put us out of a Top-5 finish just because of broken methodology. Basically, not taking a contributor is better for your ranking than taking an unranked or two-star recruit that at least has an opportunity to contribute in some way. In actuality, even a very minimal contribution is better than no contribution.

Correct. Our point total did increase after the LS commit.

Thought the average factored back into some sort of formula to determine the the overall points. That was just an assumption to make sense of it. Only other thing I can think of is that there must be a cap at 15 (Alabama just hit that number) and every recruit after a team's best 15 do little to affect the rankings. They have a couple five-stars and a few highly ranked four-stars. Their best 15 are ranked higher than ours. That would explain it, can't think of anything else.

There really isn't a cap. Each committ will add to your overall team point total but the more recruits you get the less it adds to your team score. With each commit the percentage of their overall rating that counts toward a team point total goes down.

I sort of figured it out once. It's actually weighed down quite a bit per recruit. If you look at Michigan team point total we are only averaging about 36 points per recruit. That has to mean that by commit 10 each commit is weighed down pretty heavily. You can't be getting anywhere near 50% of a commits overall point ranking at that point.

Yeah you can see that by checking out teams with about that number of recruits and comparing it to other teams that are clustered right around them.

So what would/will the effect be when they finally get around to giving Shane his fifth star? Big? Small? Nothing at all?

There will be additional points awarded but it's hard to quantify it without doing the math, and I don't feel like doing that. I suspect that the bump to 5* status will accompany a nonlinear increase in points as compared to a situation where the recruit's rating is increased but the star status isn't.

Cool, looking forward to it.

It really doesn't matter to me how, or why, 247 does their rankings the way they do.

What matters is what Brady and his guys think and do in evaluating recruits. They know more football than any 'expert' for any of the recruiting websites. That's why they're employed as D-1 football coaches at a legendary program like Michigan, while the other guys post website stories for a living.

Not broken, it's simply a side effect of classes not being completed yet.

When looking at teams with fewer commits ( < 10), the total number of commits become that much more important. The team points system essentially ranks the commits according to rating, highest to lowest. Then they multiply each rating by a factor. The factor decreases as you move down the list. If a team doesn't have many commits, then they're still using large factors, and thus every commit comes with a relatively large point total.

With where Michigan is at, you guys already have 21 slots filled, which means any further commits will simply be a relatively small increase, even if they're highly rated.

Harder to explain without graphs, but hopefully that covers it. Basically, with fewer commits, it's nearly impossible to overtake a team with more commits - the fact that USC is only 3 points away from Oklahoma (who has a very good class in their own right) just goes to show how great USC's class is. Things will balance out once classes are finished.

I think we all knew that Bama was going to pass us. They have a legitimate shot at like 4-6 5* recruits. Quite frankly, I don't think anyone can keep up with them in recruiting right now outside of maybe USC or Texas.

We are still going to have an awesome class even if it ended right now.