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While the game is very important to me, it will never be OSU or bust for me.

That just isn't fair to the players who bust their butts off every other game and finally have a let down game in that game.

And OSU wasn't even close to the toughest team we played this year. Bama and ND were tougher and Nebraska was a push. Our bowl opponent, projected to be one of Georgia, Florida, A&M and LSU, also will be tougher.

Tressel is a man who pretended to have high morals, nothing but a fraud.

Enjoy your bowl game bro.

No buddy, you deal with it. Your season this year basically doesn't exist. Are you really going to claim this as one of your undefeated seasons? That's a joke. You have what, six? I'm telling you right now, you'd have been better off losing a game or two. Every time you bring up six undefeated seasons in history, we're going to respond by "no, five". BECAUSE IF YOU PLAYED A BOWL GAME, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE YOU'D WIN IT. Now typical shameless toilet fan, go suck on that.

I would love to see you guys kick some sec butt all over the field. So sick of their winning all the time. Plus UM has a history of beating sec, unlike Bucks.

I know there have been recent considerations of hanging a banner for the Fab Five team in Crisler. I heard discussions about it on WTKA within the last few months. Sam and Ira were discuusing the possibility.

Also didn't Bill Frieder recruit, er pay, those guys, not Fisher.

I guess I don't understand how this season never happened. Do you mean that you think it will be vacated? The 2010 season was vacated but I don't think this year has to be. Do you mean that since there is no possibility of a bowl game that the season doesn't count? Then the entire rich rod era for Michigan wouldn't count. As much as I'm sure you all would like to pretend they didn't exist but sadly they do.

The only thing this season will be remembered for is how Tressel cost you a shot at a national title by his cheating. It will forever be the season of unfulfilled potential. The lost season. The forgotten season. The season birthed from scandal. It also will prove to be Urbie's best season in Columbus. He will never again exceed 11 wins and his frustration (and fan grumbling) will cause him to "retire" again by year six at the latest.

The season is fulfilled. It counts. Nothing will be vacated. It goes down as an undefeated season. We a a Bowl ban, not a regular season ban. Everything we did in the season, from going undefeated, winning the Division, to beating our rival counts and goes into the record book.

I'm not going to get into this too much because the reality is most people are going to think how they want and nothing will change their minds...but here is my take on this as a Buckeye fan.

Being closer to the program than probably most of you, there is no doubt in my mind as to how I view Tressel. He is a very good man who made a very bad mistake. Just like all the good he did on and off the field will not completely overshadow his mistakes, neither should the mistakes overshadow all the good. But the mistakes he made he has paid the price for and then some.

In terms of any ethical differences between OSU and Michigan, I do think it's relevant to point out that this was brought to light internally by OSU. It would have been very easy for OSU to simply ignore what they found. Instead, they brought it to the NCAA. So to suggest that OSU had some type of ethical problem is either short-sighted or simply a function of a hatred for OSU. The problem was Tressel's.

I have no problem what so ever with honoring the players and coaches for the 2002 championship...all of them. That championship, like the current sanctions, are a part of history. We as OSU fans must live with the bad, but we also aren't going to ignore the good.

meaningless? well i guess so did you guys. you had a nobody schedule last year, you beat us when we were down, oh thats something to brag about it, your 2-10 in 12 years. meaningless would be going 11-2 beating div1 AA teams and then this year having a big boy schedule starting 8th in country and getting destroyed by every ranked team that played you and finsihing the season not ranked. with the " best running qb " ever. what was his record vs ohio state? oh yeah 1-3. your program beat 1 top 25 team this year.and over the last 4 years your team is 4 and 13 against top 25 teams. so meaningless? that would be your team sir. your last national championship was in 97 which you shared, since then we have played for 3 and won 1. and your last big 10 championship was 2004, lets get serious now we have won 6 since then not including this year since we beat everyone, your program is meaningless :) have a good day oh by the way tell your head coach to shake Urban Meyers hand like a MAN