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  • When Spartans wipe, are they folders, or crumplers?

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    michagain

  • michagain said...

    When Spartans wipe, are they folders, or crumplers?

    Spartans have learned to wipe? They're almost like people these days.

    MrWoodson ●

  • michagain said...

    When Spartans wipe, are they folders, or crumplers?

    WTF? Crumplers? Who the hell crumples it up and goes to work? That's disgusting lol

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • michagain said...

    When Spartans wipe, are they folders, or crumplers?

    As I understand it, it's a very personal choice.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Hey all:

    As most of you know, I'm a mod and writer for the MSU 247 site. Throughout the year, I've gone on opponents' homeboards and opened myself up to any and all questions regarding Michigan State's football team. I'd like to keep things on football; I'm not going to flame/troll/etc.

    I'll be here all week, so just drop your questions in and I'll answer them in order.

    How would you rate our defense?
    I remember going into last season I said with good coaching we would jump into the top 40 and you said we had no talent.

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    MichRedWingFan7 ●

  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    How would you rate our defense? I remember going into last season I said with good coaching we would jump into the top 40 and you said we had no talent.

    Obviously they were just very lucky last season lol.

    In all seriousness, they exceeded my expectations. This year they're about where I thought; you miss Martin and Co. on the DL, but your back-7 has taken a step forward. I'm more impressed with the LBs than the DBs, more because I feel UM hasn't really been challenged through the air. They've at least played multiple teams with good to very good rushing offenses; to be in the top half of Rush D's after starting the year with Bama and AF is pretty darn impressive. I think UM has held their last 3 opponents to an average of 86 YPG on the ground.

    I do like the fundamentals on the back 7, especially the secondary's tackling ability.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Obviously they were just very lucky last season lol.

    In all seriousness, they exceeded my expectations. This year they're about where I thought; you miss Martin and Co. on the DL, but your back-7 has taken a step forward. I'm more impressed with the LBs than the DBs, more because I feel UM hasn't really been challenged through the air. They've at least played multiple teams with good to very good rushing offenses; to be in the top half of Rush D's after starting the year with Bama and AF is pretty darn impressive. I think UM has held their last 3 opponents to an average of 86 YPG on the ground.

    I do like the fundamentals on the back 7, especially the secondary's tackling ability.

    gave you a +1. How would you rank the Big Ten defenses as of right now?
    Edit: top 4 or 5 would be fine

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MichRedWingFan7 on 10/17/2012 at 10:10 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Spartans have learned to wipe? They're almost like people these days.

    lol

    This post was edited by Hoke Express on 10/17/2012 at 10:32 PM

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  • Due51 said...

    WTF? Crumplers? Who the hell crumples it up and goes to work? That's disgusting lol

    what's disgusting is people that only wipe with toilet paper. how does that clean your a$$? I have to spray it with water and clean it thoroughly every time. I never took a #2 and wiped couple times and lifted up my pants, but everyone else does. now that's disgusting.

    This post was edited by Wolverines89 on 10/18/2012 at 4:50 AM

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Obviously they were just very lucky last season lol.

    In all seriousness, they exceeded my expectations. This year they're about where I thought; you miss Martin and Co. on the DL, but your back-7 has taken a step forward. I'm more impressed with the LBs than the DBs, more because I feel UM hasn't really been challenged through the air. They've at least played multiple teams with good to very good rushing offenses; to be in the top half of Rush D's after starting the year with Bama and AF is pretty darn impressive. I think UM has held their last 3 opponents to an average of 86 YPG on the ground.

    I do like the fundamentals on the back 7, especially the secondary's tackling ability.

    I don't think you realize how solid the dline play has been. Have they been making game changing plays in the backfield? No. Have they demanded the olines attention letting the LBs roam free? Yes.

    The play of Campbell has been good. Not up to the expectations of his recruitment, but he has been good. Washington has been solid. He constantly demands double teams. Roh has been getting better and better each week. The WDE rotation has been the most disappointing to me, but it isn't because of bad play, it is because I had higher expectations.

    xxmgobluexx

  • BWC & Quinton have improved 10x since the start of the season... they've been re-establishing the line of scrimmage consistently the past few weeks.

    thevictor_11

  • Rocky is on here to discuss football guys. Let's leave the childish "crap" where it belongs.

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    kylebennett7127 ●

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I don't think you realize how solid the dline play has been. Have they been making game changing plays in the backfield? No. Have they demanded the olines attention letting the LBs roam free? Yes.

    The play of Campbell has been good. Not up to the expectations of his recruitment, but he has been good. Washington has been solid. He constantly demands double teams. Roh has been getting better and better each week. The WDE rotation has been the most disappointing to me, but it isn't because of bad play, it is because I had higher expectations.

    Yes, I agree with everything. I'm surprised ojemudia has been getting reps as well.
    However, beyer should get better, he missed some time this year.

    This post was edited by kylebennett7127 on 10/18/2012 at 8:14 AM

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  • Rocky, how has your dline performed compared with expectation?

    How do they match up with our oline?

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    kylebennett7127 ●

  • So, Maxwell's two best games have been road games so far. What gives? (EMU and OSU have bad defenses and they were home games).

    Peterklima

  • kylebennett7127 said...

    Rocky, how has your dline performed compared with expectation?

    How do they match up with our oline?

    For every MSU game, Rocky does a complete breakdown of the match-ups between the 2 teams. He has already did the stats, and the MSU O vs Mich D. Today the MSU D vs the Mich O will come out. Tomorrow the special teams, both teams keys to victory, annd game prediction.

    Edit: Go to their news/articles section to view them.

    This post was edited by xxmgobluexx on 10/18/2012 at 8:43 AM

    xxmgobluexx

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    For every MSU game, Rocky does a complete breakdown of the match-ups between the 2 teams. He has already did the stats, and the MSU O vs Mich D. Today the MSU D vs the Mich O will come out. Tomorrow the special teams, both teams keys to victory, annd game prediction.

    Edit: Go to their news/articles section to view them.

    MSU vs. UM: Intro and Stats

    Can the Spartans redeem themselves in Ann Arbor?

    michiganstate.247sports.com

    MSU vs. UM: Offense vs. Defense

    Andrew Maxwell and the Spartans offense face a defense whose secondary is led by Jordan Kovacs ...

    michiganstate.247sports.com
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    Ducksworth

  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    gave you a +1. How would you rank the Big Ten defenses as of right now? Edit: top 4 or 5 would be fine

    I'll do it in Tiers.

    Tier 1 (Very good) - MSU, UM

    Tier 2 (good) - Wisconsin, Iowa, Penn State

    Tier 3 (adequate)- Minnesota (surprisingly), Northwestern, Nebraska, Purdue

    Tier 4 (You call THAT Big 10 football?!?)- Ohio State, Indiana, Illinois

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I don't think you realize how solid the dline play has been. Have they been making game changing plays in the backfield? No. Have they demanded the olines attention letting the LBs roam free? Yes.

    The play of Campbell has been good. Not up to the expectations of his recruitment, but he has been good. Washington has been solid. He constantly demands double teams. Roh has been getting better and better each week. The WDE rotation has been the most disappointing to me, but it isn't because of bad play, it is because I had higher expectations.

    In that respect, they're playing about as well as the MSU DL; the Spartan LBs are kept mostly clean, but the DL hasn't taken that next step into changing the game on their own. I think if you had MM and RVB this year, it'd put your D over the top as the undisputed best unit in the conference. As it stands, the DL is the "Weak Link" relatively speaking, though I agree with you that they aren't "Weak" on an absolute scale.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Ducksworth said...

    Just a very small note Rocky, Quinton Washington is a RS JR, not a RS SR. Great work on these though. I do think you're overplaying the whole "Michigan's opponents suck" angle, but nice work.

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    Ducksworth

  • kylebennett7127 said...

    Rocky, how has your dline performed compared with expectation?

    How do they match up with our oline?

    MSU's DL has underperformed relative to expectations. The thought was that the natural progression of Gholston, Rush and White would off-set the loss of Worthy. In contrast, it was Worthy that allowed those players to perform as well as they did; basically they weren't as good as we though initially, so though they may be improved compared to their technique from last year, the overall effectiveness of the line isn't at the '11 level.

    That doesn't mean they've been bad. It's a very good run-stopping unit, particularly the DTs. The only runs up the middle that have worked have been quick, pistol-style draws (Ohio State) where the C and OG double team the 1-tech (white) and pop open the A-gap. As I said to xx, MSU's DL has done a good job of keeping MSU's LB's free; Bullough is having a fine junior year, and Allen just went off for 13 tackles, 1.5 TFL and an INT against Iowa.

    The pass rush has been lacking. The QB hurries are there (8 for Gholston and Rush on the season), but the DL alone has produced just 2 sacks. Sacks aren't the be-all and end-all of a DL, but having 6 in 7 games just isn't enough.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • Ducksworth said...

    Just a very small note Rocky, Quinton Washington is a RS JR, not a RS SR. Great work on these though. I do think you're overplaying the whole "Michigan's opponents suck" angle, but nice work.

    It's more of an unknown situation for me. Michigan hasn't really played a "middle of the road" opponent; it's been top 10, or bad. I guess Purdue counts a bit, but they've been waxed 2 straight weeks and their best "W" is losing closely to ND.

    The point was more specifically to your pass D; I don't think Michigan has faced even a competent downfield unit since Bama, and that's of almost no probative value since MSU's OL is no where NEAR what Bama had. That doesn't mean that I think Maxwell will throw for 310 yards, 4 TDs and 0 INTs, just that I don't really know how your DBs will cover downfield. They're great at tackling and sniffing out short routes though. I did give the edge to UM in that match-up BTW.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    MSU's DL has underperformed relative to expectations. The thought was that the natural progression of Gholston, Rush and White would off-set the loss of Worthy. In contrast, it was Worthy that allowed those players to perform as well as they did; basically they weren't as good as we though initially, so though they may be improved compared to their technique from last year, the overall effectiveness of the line isn't at the '11 level.

    That doesn't mean they've been bad. It's a very good run-stopping unit, particularly the DTs. The only runs up the middle that have worked have been quick, pistol-style draws (Ohio State) where the C and OG double team the 1-tech (white) and pop open the A-gap. As I said to xx, MSU's DL has done a good job of keeping MSU's LB's free; Bullough is having a fine junior year, and Allen just went off for 13 tackles, 1.5 TFL and an INT against Iowa.

    The pass rush has been lacking. The QB hurries are there (8 for Gholston and Rush on the season), but the DL alone has produced just 2 sacks. Sacks aren't the be-all and end-all of a DL, but having 6 in 7 games just isn't enough.

    I agree wholly sacks not being everything. Qb pressures are just as important, especially when the pressure comes up the middle.

    Hoover should provide more depth and fresher players throughout the game as well. But I wonder what the over/under is with batted passes from denard in this game. I'll start with 2

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    kylebennett7127 ●

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    For every MSU game, Rocky does a complete breakdown of the match-ups between the 2 teams. He has already did the stats, and the MSU O vs Mich D. Today the MSU D vs the Mich O will come out. Tomorrow the special teams, both teams keys to victory, annd game prediction.

    Edit: Go to their news/articles section to view them.

    Yeah, I wasn't too worried about stats and I have them in just about every category you can imagine. We also have pm about skewed stats.
    I was more looking for matchups at positions.
    But thanks for the info.

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    kylebennett7127 ●

  • Whats the early weather patterns looking like for the game guys? Did anyone see?

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    kylebennett7127 ●

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