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THJ has 25 points on 10 shots. That is outstanding.

Don't like that we gave up 61. Our D was not good in this game in my opinion. Rebounding was questionable in the first half as well.

I like Vogrich in the starting lineup.

I only got to watch the first half, then the game cut out. Good that he had a good showing. Box score.

Same here. Waiting for mgovideo to have the game up hopefully later tonight and then i will watch the second half.

I think Vogrich can be a solid player this year. Needs around 15 to 20 min a game and he can average like 8 points.

Yeah I like the depth developing on this team, I like the fact that even when Morgan and McGary picked up 2 quick fouls in the first Mclimans came in and actually didn't look half bad... we already know Morgan, McGary, and Horford are going to play regularly nice too see that Mclimans actually showed that if he gets in the game or has to play for some reason he can make a positive impact instead of being a liability.

I watched all of those games too man, most of those game we won if not all.

Until we can rebound better and have a shot blocking force in the paint I will continue to have my reservations.

Yeah, and he shot that many times.... because the team only had 2 good scoring options. How hard is that too see? Nobody is saying Hardaway had a great year a year ago if that is what your getting at because he did not, but bottomline I think this kid gets to much heat from the fanbase. He essentially had no help besides Burke... and Morgan scoring off his pick and rolls/occasionally in the post. Novak and Douglass for all the leadership that they provided had limited skill sets, made things tougher on our 2 top players as it made it easier to defend those 2 guys and you also had Novak playing out of position at the 4 because Symotrcyz was not tough enough to keep his starting job. Then you look at the fact that they had no bench last year with Horford being injured for the year, Symotrcyz essentially being useless once big ten play hit(Why they benched him), you really only had 1 sub in Vogrich all year long with Mclimans sprinkled in occasionally. Tim gets way too much heat, he will have a better year this year because he as well as Burke don't have the weight of the whole team on their shoulders. Last years team which won the Big Ten... was barely winning exhibition games at this time a year ago... I think we beat some no name team wayne state by 8 and only won the season opener by 4 points against Western Illinois, I remember people whining back then. This team is much better then a year ago and has much more options.