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  • Brady Hoke said...

    Your class will be more like 3.03 when NSD day comes. You still have needs to fill and no 4 stars are left on the board for you.

    Yea, think anywhere from 3.00 to 3.10 is where MSU will end up, of course there's opportunity for current commits to add a 4th star (ESPN shows MSU has 4 4stars, the other 3 show no more than 2)

    Rivals also has MSU at three 5.7 kids (5.8 is 4star)

    But yep- anywhere in that range is probably expected

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Now, can only assume, but when the OP said he expects MSU to drop off on the field in 2 years, I don't think he's talking about the 2009 class (since, unless they are RS SR's, they'll be gone). 2 years would be 2014, meaning he's highlighting the drop in recruiting MSU has had since UM started to recruit well again (2012 and 2013) and that's simply not the case.

    Twist the words any way you want- but the OP is claiming MSU's current drop in recruiting will show on the field beginning in 2014 and since 2010, Dantonio's recruiting has been consistent and has actually improved in '12 and '13 compared to 2010 and 2011- which would be the 4 classes impacted in two years.

    Twist the words? You're the one breaking down sentances to assume at a meaning. I was using the raw data that you provided. smh

    This post was edited by xxmgobluexx on 7/25/2012 at 11:40 AM

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Yea, think anywhere from 3.00 to 3.10 is where MSU will end up, of course there's opportunity for current commits to add a 4th star (ESPN shows MSU has 4 4stars, the other 3 show no more than 2)

    Rivals also has MSU at three 5.7 kids (5.8 is 4star)

    But yep- anywhere in that range is probably expected

    but that would be another drop in recruiting caused by Michigan's success.

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    but that would be another drop in recruiting caused by Michigan's success.

    ?

    The 2013 class will still end either on par or better than the 2010 class and better than the 2011 class

    As I stated below, in the last 2 years that UM started to recruit better, 2012 was Dantonio's 2nd highest rated class ever at MSU and 2013 is on its way to being his 3rd highest rated class ever at MSU

    That's not a drop

    This post was edited by copemoney0 on 7/25/2012 at 11:49 AM

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  • a2brutus said...

    natty's????

    gotta get by ur friends in columbus (maybe twice a yr)...

    i forsee some great games between us, but no more then 2-3 in a row for either team...

    i can see um and osu turning at least 1 of are great recruiting classes into a natty...

    bucks have a good shot in miller's junior or senior yr (2013,14)

    i would think the same for morris (if he lives up to the hype)

    Begrudging, I can see that.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Now, can only assume, but when the OP said he expects MSU to drop off on the field in 2 years, I don't think he's talking about the 2009 class (since, unless they are RS SR's, they'll be gone). 2 years would be 2014, meaning he's highlighting the drop in recruiting MSU has had since UM started to recruit well again (2012 and 2013) and that's simply not the case.

    Twist the words any way you want- but the OP is claiming MSU's current drop in recruiting will show on the field beginning in 2014 and since 2010, Dantonio's recruiting has been consistent and has actually improved in '12 and '13 compared to 2010 and 2011- which would be the 4 classes impacted in two years.

    I did not say that, someone else did.

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  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    I did not say that, someone else did.

    you are correct sir cheers

    copemoney0

  • a2brutus said...

    i think the home team will win most of the battles going forward with an occasional away win....

    both teams should be evenly matched talent wise so that homefield +3 should be the difference in many a game...

    im really looking forward to our games when ur oline and our dline recruits become soph's-seniors....

    spence,washington,pittman etc... vs kalis, magnuson (spelling) etc...

    should be fun!

    That's how I see it. Michigan and tOSU winning the vast majority of conference game and when they meet, the home team holding the advantage.

    Edit: throw Braden, LTT, Bosch, and Fox as possible tackles.

    This post was edited by xxmgobluexx on 7/25/2012 at 12:14 PM

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  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    Not going to disagree with that, but for what I haave seen over the past 6 months, it is why should I worry, Michigan is no threat, we have beat them the last 4 years and held Denard in check the last 2. There is no way you can predict a Michigan win.

    I am just questioning the logic. When Michigan was winning, I never questioned MSU's ability to win the game, I knew it could be a tossup every year.

    There is a difference between predicting a Michigan win, and saying the game could be a tossup.

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  • Question:

    Why should we care at all what sparty thinks?

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  • I3usdriver said...

    Question:

    Why should we care at all what sparty thinks?

    Cause they are in your heads goblue

    banana

    This post was edited by buttesnake on 7/25/2012 at 6:34 PM

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Cause they are in your heads goblue

    banana

    Saids the sparty trolling on a Michigan board.

    This post was edited by zwolverine5555 on 7/25/2012 at 6:48 PM

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  • zwolverine5555 said...

    Saids the sparty trolling on a Michigan board.

    Interesting.. the Green Koolaid turns into the Go Blue emoticon when I post it

    And not trolling- the OP basically called out MSU- can't be a troll if MSU is being discussed/ripped on

    This post was edited by copemoney0 on 7/25/2012 at 6:51 PM

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  • I3usdriver said...

    Question:

    Why should we care at all what sparty thinks?

    fair point ... I was very drunk when I made the thread and was all over the place.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Interesting.. the Green Koolaid turns into the Go Blue emoticon when I post it

    And not trolling- the OP basically called out MSU- can't be a troll if MSU is being discussed/ripped on

    Stop for a second and think about where you are at. This is Wolverine247, not trcmb, not tBB. You can be trolling when a Michigan fan "discussed/ripped" on sparty.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    Stop for a second and think about where you are at. This is Wolverine247, not trcmb, not tBB. You can be trolling when a Michigan fan "discussed/ripped" on sparty.

    I will amend my original post to say sparty trolls.
    I have literally seen at least 50 posts consisting only of laughing in response to anyone predicting a Michigan win in the game ...

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  • NigelUno said...

    There is a difference between predicting a Michigan win, and saying the game could be a tossup.

    Is it really hard to imagine a toss up game becoming favorable to a home team?
    I am sure that could factor into it. It is not like anyone is predicting a blowout .....

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  • Mich&RedWingFan said...

    I will amend my original post to say sparty trolls. I have literally seen at least 50 posts consisting only of laughing in response to anyone predicting a Michigan win in the game ...

    The sparty troll above also expects us to go 7-5 roflmao

    This post was edited by Brady Hoke on 7/25/2012 at 7:35 PM

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  • copemoney0 said...

    Cause they are in your heads goblue

    banana

    lol buttesnake is the censoredin man

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  • Brady Hoke said...

    The sparty troll above also expects us to go 7-5 roflmao

    think anything above 8-4 is a great season for UM considering the schedule

    copemoney0

  • xxmgobluexx said...

    So, you can just give stars to a guy? Sorry, I look up Kovacs recruiting profile on Rivals, you're using Rivals right, and I see an unranked kid. Plenty of kids play above or below their recruiting ranking, but if you are looking at raw recruiting numbers, Kovacs doesn't have any. He is a great story, but you are moving the goalpost again. If you use raw recruiting data for everybody else, it has to be used for Kovacs. Using those numbers would show that MSU haf a higher * average defense last year, and it looks like will start the season with one this year.

    To add, I think this further proves the point that a poster was making that while initially RR had good looking classes, attrition killed them.

    the attrition under RR, especially on D was ridiculous! i mean can't blame the guys not wantin to stay seein as how RR cared nothin for D and was only about his offensive guys but i've never seen so many top rated guys leave a program like that in such a short time.

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  • Hoke Express said...

    the attrition under RR, especially on D was ridiculous! i mean can't blame the guys not wantin to stay seein as how RR cared nothin for D and was only about his offensive guys but i've never seen so many top rated guys leave a program like that in such a short time.

    It really was sick. I would love for someone to break down who is stayed/is left from 2008-2010 classes.

    Sounds like weekend project for coming up.

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  • copemoney0 said...

    think anything above 8-4 is a great season for UM considering the schedule

    And you also thought Hoke walked into a great situation and that Richrod deserved credit for last seasons 11 win season and Sugar Bowl win.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    I agree that it gets old, but we will continue to hear it until a B1G team wins a natty.

    absolutely, i won't argue that the sec isn't the best conference right now, they definetly are, very ready for them to be knocked off that high horse. My main complaint tho is this talk of the speed, obviously they have alot of fast players but the way their fans as well as every tv analyst talk you would think there's not a guy that runs faster than a 5.0 forty outside the sec. Just gettin real sick of the analysts constantly talkin bout how there so much better just cuz of speed. Again they are obviously the best conference right now but if you look at the 40 times for florida and Michigan in 07 fl was definetly faster yet we did beat them.

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  • xxmgobluexx said...

    It really was sick. I would love for someone to break down who is stayed/is left from 2008-2010 classes.

    Sounds like weekend project for coming up.

    yea definetly would be an entire weekends project! several of the high profile ones i remember are CB's cissoko and turner as well as DE anthony lalota

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