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Reeves is getting Plan B in order

  • buttesnake said...

    What about this coach makes you think we sway Reeves?

    He isn't a big name coach that would be able to sway recruits like a Dan Mullen would and doesn't have a huge reputation. He could go to Hawaii though he is an alum

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    He isn't a big name coach that would be able to sway recruits like a Dan Mullen would and doesn't have a huge reputation. He could go to Hawaii though he is an alum

    Thanks.

    buttesnake

  • I'd be shocked if PSU got a big name hire. Too much uncertainty over there and there is still a pretty nasty cloud hanging over the program. It's going to be a multi year rebuilding effort over there and I just don't see a guy like Richt or even Mullen putting themselves in that situation right now.

    AllDay28

  • AllDay28 said...

    I'd be shocked if PSU got a big name hire. Too much uncertainty over there and there is still a pretty nasty cloud hanging over the program. It's going to be a multi year rebuilding effort over there and I just don't see a guy like Richt or even Mullen putting themselves in that situation right now.

    Agree. Saw a couple things suggesting it could be Larry Johnson. Could make sense given he is their best recruiter, as long as they don't have any shred of thought he knew anything about Sandusky.

    Dizzo

  • If I was a betting man, I would bet Reeves ends up elsewhere. The PSU recruiting class is falling apart. The next coach may have some talent that is already there for next year, but what about going forward? This years recruiting class is not going to be good. Then the new coach, even if he assembles the #1 recruiting class in the nation, will still have to wait until the following season to see those players on the field.

    The new coach at PSU has a major rebuilding job ahead of him. Does Reeves want to be a part of that or go to an established program?

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    The new coach at PSU has a major rebuilding job ahead of him. Does Reeves want to be a part of that or go to an established program?

    I'd have to agree with this. I think Reeves wants to show that's he's giving PSU the best chance possible but ultimately he won't end up there.

    buttesnake

  • buttesnake said...

    I'd have to agree with this. I think Reeves wants to show that's he's giving PSU the best chance possible but ultimately he won't end up there.

    I think the same is true for wiliams. Without a big name coach Reeves is probably headed to Michigan and Wiliams to tOSU.

    AllDay28

  • Too bad we can't package Williams and Reeves. Much rather Williams than Ringer

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  • AllDay28 said...

    I think the same is true for wiliams. Without a big name coach Reeves is probably headed to Michigan and Wiliams to tOSU.

    How many spots do you expect to fill at OSU? I've read they have 1 spot left technically, but expect with medical hardships (3?) and a couple transfers that they could get to 5-6 total. If you took Williams as you say plus two OTs, it starts getting into the low range for other needs. You'd think a QB would be the next highest position of need after the OTs given the lack of depth behind Braxton.

    Dizzo

  • I think they have some juco kid coming in this winter semester

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  • Dizzo said...

    How many spots do you expect to fill at OSU? I've read they have 1 spot left technically, but expect with medical hardships (3?) and a couple transfers that they could get to 5-6 total. If you took Williams as you say plus two OTs, it starts getting into the low range for other needs. You'd think a QB would be the next highest position of need after the OTs given the lack of depth behind Braxton.

    Technically we have 19 commits right niw with a rumor we also have a silent commit in Bam Bradley. The story is we basically know for sure we'll have 23 spots with medical hardships and expect our third string QB, maybe one RB, and one DB to transfer. This would put us as much as 26. I think we'll probably end up at 24 though with 2 ol commits, wiliams, and maybe an athlete. Though a lot of bucknutters are hoping to grab Winston (QB) I don't personally think it's at all likely.

    AllDay28

  • AllDay28 said...

    Technically we have 19 commits right niw with a rumor we also have a silent commit in Bam Bradley. The story is we basically know for sure we'll have 23 spots with medical hardships and expect our third string QB, maybe one RB, and one DB to transfer. This would put us as much as 26. I think we'll probably end up at 24 though with 2 ol commits, wiliams, and maybe an athlete. Though a lot of bucknutters are hoping to grab Winston (QB) I don't personally think it's at all likely.

    Agree on Winston. In a typical year he'd be somebody Meyer could land, but he is not the type of talent that wants to sit behind Braxton for 3 years when he would worst case be competing for the starting job at FSU in a season. Same with LSU and Auburn, and maybe even Bama since McCarron and Sims didn't solidify themselves at the starters this year like Braxton did.

    Dizzo

  • Dizzo said...

    Agree on Winston. In a typical year he'd be somebody Meyer could land, but he is not the type of talent that wants to sit behind Braxton for 3 years when he would worst case be competing for the starting job at FSU in a season. Same with LSU and Auburn, and maybe even Bama since McCarron and Sims didn't solidify themselves at the starters this year like Braxton did.

    Not to mention, Meyer will be on some of the dual threat qbs for 2013.

    I will be surprised if OSU has less than 24 commits, and would not be surprised to see 26.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7367243/baylor-bears-brian-norwood-candidate-coach-penn-state-nittany-lions-hawaii-warriors

    If this is who PSU hires i think we get Armani Reeves. Also a key thing with Armani was that PSU have a coach before Christmas and they still don't have one

    FWIW, Norwood is not a candidate. No chance.

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  • Dizzo said...

    Agree. Saw a couple things suggesting it could be Larry Johnson. Could make sense given he is their best recruiter, as long as they don't have any shred of thought he knew anything about Sandusky.

    Johnson is apparently a legit in-house candidate. Reportedly interviewed well.

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  • AllDay28 said...

    I'd be shocked if PSU got a big name hire. Too much uncertainty over there and there is still a pretty nasty cloud hanging over the program. It's going to be a multi year rebuilding effort over there and I just don't see a guy like Richt or even Mullen putting themselves in that situation right now.

    Richt is a pipe dream. But (JMO, based on what I've heard), if we wanted Mullen, we'd get him.

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  • Buckeye Warrior said...

    If I was a betting man, I would bet Reeves ends up elsewhere. The PSU recruiting class is falling apart. The next coach may have some talent that is already there for next year, but what about going forward? This years recruiting class is not going to be good. Then the new coach, even if he assembles the #1 recruiting class in the nation, will still have to wait until the following season to see those players on the field.

    The new coach at PSU has a major rebuilding job ahead of him. Does Reeves want to be a part of that or go to an established program?

    It's possible Reeves goes elsewhere. JMO, but the kids who weren't really committed have already decommitted. I think the fact that Reeves hasn't done so is telling. We'll see.

    P.S. I hate making four posts to make four short replies. When can we get the multi-quote feature on these boards?

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  • Why would Jameis Winston go to the spread? He's much better suited for pro-style imo.

    Moreover, why would Winston pick Ohio State over Alabama/Florida State?

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  • Frank C said...

    Why would Jameis Winston go to the spread? He's much better suited for pro-style imo.

    Moreover, why would Winston pick Ohio State over Alabama/Florida State?

    fat chance.

    Maple_leaf

  • psubills62 said...

    Richt is a pipe dream. But (JMO, based on what I've heard), if we wanted Mullen, we'd get him.

    Here is what I've heard. First, that you are looking at two NFL candidates (one who is a HC, and he is unlikely, and one who is a position coach, and he is interested but the timing is extremely bad due to the playoffs). As for Mullen, I heard he demanded to be moved to the front of the line as the preferred candidate before he would even sit down for an interview but PSU refused, so at this point he is more or less off the table. Beyond that, I haven't heard much. There is some chatter that a decision already has been made but they are delaying the announcement until the first week of January for PR reasons, but I don't believe that. It is just too hard nowadays to keep something like that quiet. I have not heard LJ, but If I were PSU I would be wary of picking a position coach (even one from your own staff). It is a big jump from position coach to HC and it just seems like PSU should go with a coach who already has experience running an entire program. Keeping LJ would be great, but I would try to keep him as DC.

    Note: FWIW, you might consider Frank Solich. He did a good job at Nebraska and has done a very good job at Ohio. He also is in his 60s so he could be a nice transition coach to get past the current situation. He also probably would take the job at a modest comp level ($2.0-2.5 million), which would look better than if PSU hires a coach at the going rate for elite coaches of $3.0 million and up in the likely context of trying to settle claims with Sandusky's vicitims.

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Here is what I've heard. First, that you are looking at two NFL candidates (one who is a HC, and he is unlikely, and one who is a position coach, and he is interested but the timing is extremely bad due to the playoffs). As for Mullen, I heard he demanded to be moved to the front of the line as the preferred candidate before he would even sit down for an interview but PSU refused, so at this point he is more or less off the table. Beyond that, I haven't heard much. There is some chatter that a decision already has been made but they are delaying the announcement until the first week of January for PR reasons, but I don't believe that. It is just too hard nowadays to keep something like that quiet. I have not heard LJ, but If I were PSU I would be wary of picking a position coach (even one from your own staff). It is a big jump from position coach to HC and it just seems like PSU should go with a coach who already has experience running an entire program. Keeping LJ would be great, but I would try to keep him as DC.

    Note: FWIW, you might consider Frank Solich. He did a good job at Nebraska and has done a very good job at Ohio. He also is in his 60s so he could be a nice transition coach to get past the current situation. He also probably would take the job at a modest comp level ($2.0-2.5 million), which would look better than if PSU hires a coach at the going rate for elite coaches of $3.0 million and up in the likely context of trying to settle claims with Sandusky's vicitims.

    I heard similar things about Mullen. I also heard he loves PSU (grew up a fan) and I have little doubt that if we had offered him the job or told him he was at the top, we would have gotten him. I do think that our acting AD had bigger fish to fry, though.

    The chatter that they've made their decision has come from some respected PSU message board insiders. I don't know if they're delaying the decision due to PR or the coach's request, though. I don't know that it is that hard to believe. If people want to keep things quiet, it's possible and I wouldn't put it past Joyner (acting AD) and Lubert (aggressive committee member).

    All I heard is that LJ interviewed well. To be honest, I don't think in-house candidates are at all high on their list. However, I do believe he's ahead of Bradley. I'm not even sure I'd like it, as HC's have severe limitations on how much they can recruit and I don't want to limit LJ.

    I can say right now that they aren't looking for a transition coach, and they almost certainly aren't going for someone in their 60's.

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  • Frank C said...

    Why would Jameis Winston go to the spread? He's much better suited for pro-style imo.

    Moreover, why would Winston pick Ohio State over Alabama/Florida State?

    I mean, we are clearly a better program than Florida State and you can make a case for him wanting to play in a Meyer spread over a Saban traditional offense. Again, I don't think we have a chance with him especially considering Brax being a freshman who played very well, but it's not as if there isn't a logical case for him to pick tOSU over the other schools.

    AllDay28

  • AllDay28 said...

    I mean, we are clearly a better program than Florida State and you can make a case for him wanting to play in a Meyer spread over a Saban traditional offense. Again, I don't think we have a chance with him especially considering Brax being a freshman who played very well, but it's not as if there isn't a logical case for him to pick tOSU over the other schools.

    This entire discussion might be moot if the kid decides to play professional baseball.

    MgoPhilly

  • Steve Wiltfong said...

    http://michigan.247sports.com/Article/Reeves-is-getting-Plan-B-in-order-52883

    West Roxbury (Mass.) Catholic Memorial four-star CB Armani Reeves is hoping things workout with his commitment to Penn State, but if not he's considering two other schools.

    While I hope that Reeves would choose to attend Penn State, I also can understand his possible need to go elsewhere also. But anywhere, is better than The School from up north. Even Miami.

    holstein51

  • holstein51 said...

    While I hope that Reeves would choose to attend Penn State, I also can understand his possible need to go elsewhere also. But anywhere, is better than The School from up north. Even Miami.

    To PSU fans, what is the school up north?

    buttesnake

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