Wolverine247 Board

I have no problem with the NCAA stepping in and if LOIC is found, to hammer PSU.

Those in charge clearly covered up and/or turned a blind eye to children being sodomized. Now, while covering up those children being sodomized didn't give a direct advantage, it sure gave them indirect advantage due to the public outrage that followed.

I equate it to tat-gate. How did players currently on the team receiving tats and selling gold pants give an advantage on the field. Most people stated that it would influence recruiting. As shown last year with the decommits, knowing that children had their ass pounded in the same shower these recruits would use, it had an influence. There is also the fact that the coaches knew about the issues in both cases, and did nothing.

From the top down, this is LOIC in my eyes.

I didn't watch it, but checked out the thread on tBB and it was brutal. Every PSU fan posting basically said "Jay needs to get off the TV he's making Penn State look horrible."

There is a time to defend your family, and there is a time to just keep your mouth shut.

I can understand the natural familial instinct to defend his father, but he really just needed to STFU and go into seclusion. The entire Paterno family should only speak through a spokesman or lawyer for the foreseeable future. There was absolutely nothing Jay Paterno could have said short of admitting his father was a monster that would make the situation any better. I'm sure ESPN knew that they could just trot him out (like they did with Millen) and create even more controversy and viewership by getting CFB fans to react with vitriol.

As a lawyer though, it amazes me how incompetent the lawyers for Penn State, Sandusky, and the Paterno family have been. These lawyers a) should have been aware of the Clery Act and all over Penn State's lack of a compliance office, b) should never have allowed Sandusky's interview with Bob Costas, and c) should be the only public link between the Paterno family and the outside world. I know that ultimately, the client is king, but if these lawyers aren't all over this situation, they're not doing their jobs.

Did you really just compare this to tat-gate?... And not get criticized by anyone?..

I understand why you might want to take down PSU football, but I think if you read the report you might think otherwise. I read it and I personally think it's just incompetence by 4 leaders. The school deserves to be punished, not just football (by taking out football you'd take out a few other sports as well, and I'm not sure people want that). The DOE, civil suits, etc. will punish the university for years to come.

Still isn't in NCAA territory though. If it was they would have to go back and punish Colorado football and ND for there problems from the past 2 years. (Also, in LOIC, doesn't the university have to lose control? Unfortunately it seems that these 3-4 had complete control of the situation, which is why it is a legal matter.)

I am about to throw up.

What sir do you mean by complete control?

I'll be surprised if we ever see another UM vs PSU game in our lifetimes. The public outcry for punishment is getting louder, and PSU is still just sitting on their hands. If the NCAA doesn't act, I'll bet the BIG does. Urb better keep some schollies open for the PSU mass exodus part deux. Goodbye and good riddance.

This is actually not happening. It was a stupid report by ESPN. The Board heard the rumor and squashed it. They just said it hasn't been discussed and wouldnt be for a long time. Said they had more pressing matters to deal with in this situation... I also ask that you don't condemn all of us on the actions of a few. prejudice is not a pretty thing

I apologize if you took it that way. Do you want me to make you feel better and say "issue a strong statement against the culture that allowed child rapes to occur?" People call for the death penalty to programs like Miami or USC for transgressions that are frankly small potatoes compared to what happened at Penn State. Most of time, the mistakes of these programs are the result of a few coaches and boosters and not really university wide either. Yet, college football fans want heads when these violations occur. It would be odd to me if people did not think more strongly about Penn State's punishment.

I am sorry if that offends you. It may be something we just disagree on. I don't cast judgement on you or the students or faculty *personally. I think Penn State is still a fine school. However, to just say, "Well, *we'll let it pass since it only involved the four most powerful persons on campus" is not something I would not be willing to let slide.

*edits