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Opponent's predictions for Michigan in 2012

  • I am bored so I thought I'd start a running thread on predictions you might have read on other 247 sites

    My inspiration for this comes from here:
    http://ohiostate.247sports.com/Board/120/2012-OSU-UM-game-results-and-ramifications--9336655
    " OSU 42 UM 10. A total blow out. This is very likely based on our defense this year and UM struggling on D Their great recruiting class crumbles and shitagan is back to mediocrity for the next 10 yrs. and Hoke is fired in 5 yrs "

    Of course, every poster on trcbm predicts 5 in a row, but things have gotten out of control with this thread
    http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/MSUs-expectation-isnt-the-Rose-Bowl-9322334
    The Spartans aren't shooting for their first Rose Bowl in a quarter century. No. They're eyeing the National Championship. [smh]

    Feel free to add any other prognostications you read. Should be fun to revisit at the end of this season.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Due51 on 4/30/2012 at 5:16 PM

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    MSU isn't a very good football program.. takes year of consistent winning to get to that level. - copemoney 1/22/13

    Due51

  • It also was last year that the Spartys were saying that we would lose a majority of our games last season in embarrassing fashion. Then as a result a ton of our commits would decommit. Hmm, they are saying the exact same thing this year too. We may lose a couple this year but guess what kids aren't going to decommit over a couple loses. They know they are here to bring Michigan football back to elite status. As far as the buckeye faithful, yea good luck trying to talk any sense with them!

    Lord Viceroy

  • We prefer to wait until we're on the field with our 22 best.

    Uncle Newt

  • yeah...The rcmb is always out of control with their predictions...both on our record and subsequent fallout from the record.

    Seems they believe our ceiling is 7-5, and after that a ton of recruits are going to flip and Hoke's seat will get a little hot.

    While 7-5 isn't out of the realm of possibility, I don't believe that a ton of our recruits are going to flip, nor will Hoke's seat get hot. I'm pretty sure we all recognize that our schedule next year will be by far the most difficult in the B1G.

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    vcmarsh1

  • I am saying two losses........Michigan State & Alabama..........Alabama is the only sure loss. I think you are in the other games.

    Two toss-ups: Ohio & Nebraska.

    So two losses for sure............maybe three.........or four.

    JHATL41892

  • Anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 I'd say

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    BennyG34

  • BennyG34 said...

    Anywhere from 7-5 to 10-2 I'd say

    Disagree 8-4 is the floor. Denard won't let this team lose 5 games this year.

    MichaelHardenII

  • JH-ATL said...

    I am saying two losses........Michigan State & Alabama..........Alabama is the only sure loss. I think you are in the other games.

    Two toss-ups: Ohio & Nebraska.

    So two losses for sure............maybe three.........or four.

    Zero chance we lose to MSU. They will struggle on offense and also lost two very good starters on defense. They will be a good team, but not as good as 2011. They don't reload the way Bama does (I take it you are a Bama fan from your history). I am far more worried about Nebraska, Iowa and Ohio.

    Nebraska - will be better on both sides of the ball; have both their QB and RB returning (3-year starters for both IIRC); early prediction is we lose this one on the road (we embarrassed them last year in AA and they have this game circled)

    Iowa - their QB is underrated by a lot of people and they are always solid if not great on both sides of the ball; WR and RB are big questions and how effectively they answer them will determine how good they are; early prediction is we win this one in AA (they will come up with a decent RB, but not so much on WR)

    Ohio - tough to predict; they lost one of the best RBs and one of the best WRs in the B10; they also lost some other very good talent (e.g. Adams); also, Urbie is installing an entirely new system, which is bound to cause some inconsistency in play; but they have excellent talent on the defensive side of the ball and the game is in Columbus; and the rivalry factor means you can toss much of this analysis out the window (see 2011 game); early prediction is a W but very low confidence (close to 50/50 IMO)

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 5/1/2012 at 9:54 PM

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  • I'm going to say 9-3. Like most, I'm thinking Alabama is a definite loss and then either MSU or Nebraska and then of course I'm pulling for OSU. It really comes down to your d-line getting pressure and if Denard is throwing jumpballs down the field anymore.

    MSU won't make it to the rose bowl, let alone the national championship. Their offense will struggle mightily. William Gholston should put up some pretty good numbers this year as he will probably be the star of their defense.

    I see OSU doing better on both sides of the ball (they have to be better then last year no matter if its a new offensive scheme or not). Unfortunately I see them coming up short in being bowl eligible.

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    Holtzheartbucks

  • Holtzheartbucks said...

    I see OSU doing better on both sides of the ball (they have to be better then last year no matter if its a new offensive scheme or not). Unfortunately I see them coming up short in being bowl eligible

    lol

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    Due51

  • We will win at least 2 of the 4 games away from Michigan Stadium: Bama, @ND, @Neb, and @Ohio. I don't think we lose at home.

    I say we go 10-2 and beat Wisconsin in the B1GCG on our way to the Rosebowl where we beat a darkhorse Stanford team in miracle fashion, with Jim Harbaugh in attendance. Denard will finish in 3rd place in the Heisman voting behind Barkley and DeAnthony Thomas.

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    hail2victors9

  • hail2victors9 said...

    We will win at least 2 of the 4 games away from Michigan Stadium: Bama, @ND, @Neb, and @Ohio. I don't think we lose at home.

    I say we go 10-2 and beat Wisconsin in the B1GCG on our way to the Rosebowl where we beat a darkhorse Stanford team in miracle fashion, with Jim Harbaugh in attendance. Denard will finish in 3rd place in the Heisman voting behind Barkley and DeAnthony Thomas.

    If Barkley wins the Heisman, USC is in the Rose Bowl, no? Stanford is severely depleted, if I remember right.

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    Due51

  • UM will go 11-1 with a close loss to Alabama. I think everyone is underestimating the effect Toussaint is going to have. He is a work horse and as long as he stays healthy I think it will yet another special season ending with a win in Pasadena against USC. Turnovers will be our downfall if we have more than 2 losses.

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    Moon

  • Moon said...

    UM will go 11-1 with a close loss to Alabama. I think everyone is underestimating the effect Toussaint is going to have. He is a work horse and as long as he stays healthy I think it will yet another special season ending with a win in Pasadena against USC. Turnovers will be our downfall if we have more than 2 losses.

    11-1, only loss coming from the Alabama game.

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    MaizeandBlue21

  • Man, I'd love to believe we'll go 11-1 but I just don't know.
    My biggest concern on O is NO TE to speak of. That's going to be a major issue in both the running and passing game
    Also, No big play WR

    On D, we're going to miss Mike Martin's presence. He made a world of difference
    Roh is switching positions and who knows how that turns out
    And although we've created lots of depth at LB, I just don't know if we'll play like an 11-1 LB corp.

    I'm not trying to be a pessimist. I prefer to consider myself a realist.

    Finally, I'd trade wins against ND AND Alabama if it meant we won our division and played for the Rose Bowl. It's been way too long since we've been to Pasadena

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    Due51

  • Due51 said...

    Man, I'd love to believe we'll go 11-1 but I just don't know. My biggest concern on O is NO TE to speak of. That's going to be a major issue in both the running and passing game Also, No big play WR

    On D, we're going to miss Mike Martin's presence. He made a world of difference Roh is switching positions and who knows how that turns out And although we've created lots of depth at LB, I just don't know if we'll play like an 11-1 LB corp.

    I'm not trying to be a pessimist. I prefer to consider myself a realist.

    Finally, I'd trade wins against ND AND Alabama if it meant we won our division and played for the Rose Bowl. It's been way too long since we've been to Pasadena

    Dude, Michigan returns 3/4 (Depending on how you count the Barnum thing) out of 5 OL, all of the receivers except for Junior, all of the DBs, and replace an unathletic Heringer with crazy athlete Jibreel Black at DT. The losses out Molk, Martin, and RVB will be big, but not big enough to make us lose more than one game. This team just went 11-2 last season after the three worst seasons in Michigan history and return most of the starters, but you think Michigan declines?

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    MaizeandBlue21

  • maize&blue21 said...

    Dude, Michigan returns 3/4 (Depending on how you count the Barnum thing) out of 5 OL, all of the receivers except for Junior, all of the DBs, and replace an unathletic Heringer with crazy athlete Jibreel Black at DT. The losses out Molk, Martin, and RVB will be big, but not big enough to make us lose more than one game. This team just went 11-2 last season after the three worst seasons in Michigan history and return most of the starters, but you think Michigan declines?

    I don't think anyone thinks we decline, but having a worse record doesn't make us a worse team in this case; this year's schedule appears to be that much tougher than last year's on paper.

    MichaelHardenII

  • Moon said...

    UM will go 11-1 with a close loss to Alabama. I think everyone is underestimating the effect Toussaint is going to have. He is a work horse and as long as he stays healthy I think it will yet another special season ending with a win in Pasadena against USC. Turnovers will be our downfall if we have more than 2 losses.

    He's certainly as good or better than Leveon Bell. That's the thing that kills me about Sparty fans. They are replacing their entire passing game, so their argument is that their running game will carry the offense. What running game? They were like 9th or 10th in the B10 in rushing last year and their 2nd leading rusher left early for the NFL. And Bell is not even one of the top 5 returning rushers in the conference. I am sure he will do fine, but I can think of at least four RBs in the B10 who are better. Add on the fact that defenses will be able to cheat up a bit more on them now that Cousins/Cunningham/Martin/Nichol/Linthecum are gone, and it's hard to see Sparty's offense being very good at all this year.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 5/1/2012 at 9:58 PM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    He's certainly as good or better than Leveon Bell. That's the thing that kills me about Sparty fans. They are replacing their entire passing game, so their argument is that their running game will carry the offense. What running game? They were like 9th or 10th in the B10 in rushing last year and their 2nd leading rusher left early for the NFL. And Bell is not even one of the top 5 returning rushers in the conference. I am sure he will do fine, but I can think of at least four RBs in the B10 who are better. Add on the fact that defenses will be able to cheat up a bit more on them now that Cousins/Cunningham/Martin/Nichol/Linthecum are gone, and it's hard to see Sparty's offense being very good at all this year.

    Well, we're screwed.

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    DWags

  • D.Wags said...

    Well, we're screwed.

    dramaqueen

    MrWoodson

  • MichaelHardenII said...

    I don't think anyone thinks we decline, but having a worse record doesn't make us a worse team in this case; this year's schedule appears to be that much tougher than last year's on paper.

    I've heard a few people say we will be a better team this year but have a worst record. Are these people serious? Umm if you finish the season with a worst record then HELL YA you are worst the present year. How on god's green earth can you be a better team with a worst record? That's like saying osu was a good team last year even though their record saids differently. Umm news flash!! they were awful ok. Going 7-5 means you are awful. 8-4 means your team was not relevant. 9-3 means you had a decent year (usually don't win the B1G with that record thats why. 10-2 good job boys, you kicked ass! 11-2 your champion of ur division or a bcs bowl.
    And quit using the schedule as an excuse for us going 8-4 but being a better team. If we really are a better team then we should beat them on the road and finish with a great record. Worst record but better team makes absolutely no sense, unless your playing in a 7 year old girls basketball league where wins/losses don't count.

    This post was edited by blayze714 on 5/1/2012 at 11:09 PM

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  • blayze714 said...

    I've heard a few people say we will be a better team this year but have a worst record. Are these people serious? Umm if you finish the season with a worst record then HELL YA you are worst the present year. How on god's green earth can you be a better team with a worst record? That's like saying osu was a good team last year even though their record saids differently. Umm news flash!! they were awful ok. Going 7-5 means you are awful. 8-4 means your team was not relevant. 9-3 means you had a decent year (usually don't win the B1G with that record thats why. 10-2 good job boys, you kicked ass! 11-2 your champion of ur division or a bcs bowl. And quit using the schedule as an excuse for us going 8-4 but being a better team. If we really are a better team then we should beat them on the road and finish with a great record. Quit kidding yourselves and wake up and smell the coffee sheeeeeeeshh.

    Disagree wholeheartedly. It's just the nature of sports that a harder schedule means it is entirely possible to have a better team and a worse record.

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    vcmarsh1

  • blayze714 said...

    I've heard a few people say we will be a better team this year but have a worst record. Are these people serious? Umm if you finish the season with a worst record then HELL YA you are worst the present year. How on god's green earth can you be a better team with a worst record? That's like saying osu was a good team last year even though their record saids differently. Umm news flash!! they were awful ok. Going 7-5 means you are awful. 8-4 means your team was not relevant. 9-3 means you had a decent year (usually don't win the B1G with that record thats why. 10-2 good job boys, you kicked ass! 11-2 your champion of ur division or a bcs bowl.
    And quit using the schedule as an excuse for us going 8-4 but being a better team. If we really are a better team then we should beat them on the road and finish with a great record. Worst record but better team makes absolutely no sense, unless your playing in a 7 year old girls basketball league where wins/losses don't count.

    Not sure if serious....

    There are plenty of teams who are worse than their record indicates, Boise for example or Georgia this past year.

    On the flip side TCU could be better this year, but have a worse record playing a tougher schedule. Same goes for Michigan this year. We replace Western with Bama, Eastern, with Air Force, who won't be a cake walk, and a Notre Dame home night game becomes an away night game. On top of that we travel to Neb, and the Toilet Bowl. To guarantee we drop less than 2 games is ballsy. And if we go 9-3, I'll gladly say we were better this year.

    This post was edited by MichaelHardenII on 5/1/2012 at 11:25 PM

    MichaelHardenII

  • blayze714 said...

    I've heard a few people say we will be a better team this year but have a worst record. Are these people serious? Umm if you finish the season with a worst record then HELL YA you are worst the present year. How on god's green earth can you be a better team with a worst record? That's like saying osu was a good team last year even though their record saids differently. Umm news flash!! they were awful ok. Going 7-5 means you are awful. 8-4 means your team was not relevant. 9-3 means you had a decent year (usually don't win the B1G with that record thats why. 10-2 good job boys, you kicked ass! 11-2 your champion of ur division or a bcs bowl.
    And quit using the schedule as an excuse for us going 8-4 but being a better team. If we really are a better team then we should beat them on the road and finish with a great record. Worst record but better team makes absolutely no sense, unless your playing in a 7 year old girls basketball league where wins/losses don't count.

    Disagree. Schedule difficulty fluctuates from year to year. You can be a worse team but end up with a better record and vice versa. UM clearly has a much tougher OOC schedule and a slightly tougher B10 schedule this year. We could easily be as good or better this year as last year but have an extra loss due to the Bama match up.

    MrWoodson

  • blayze714 said...

    I've heard a few people say we will be a better team this year but have a worst record. Are these people serious? Umm if you finish the season with a worst record then HELL YA you are worst the present year. How on god's green earth can you be a better team with a worst record? That's like saying osu was a good team last year even though their record saids differently. Umm news flash!! they were awful ok. Going 7-5 means you are awful. 8-4 means your team was not relevant. 9-3 means you had a decent year (usually don't win the B1G with that record thats why. 10-2 good job boys, you kicked ass! 11-2 your champion of ur division or a bcs bowl. And quit using the schedule as an excuse for us going 8-4 but being a better team. If we really are a better team then we should beat them on the road and finish with a great record. Worst record but better team makes absolutely no sense, unless your playing in a 7 year old girls basketball league where wins/losses don't count.

    You know how I know that you know nothing about sports?

    otwp12

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