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Peterklima said...
Who do you think starts for the Wolverines?
Options:
1. Bellomy. Pretty talented. Coaches like him and it will be his third year in the system. Has at least some game experience (and hopefully will get more this weekend.)
2. Garnder. Was the #2 back-up until a need arose at WR. Obviously, he should stay at WR, but he has to change his own mind. If he doesn't, it could be him.
2. Morris. Very talented. But, he will be a true frosh. Outsiders seem to think he is good enough to come in and start.
Personally, I think there should be no debate - but there will be. It should be Bellomy. He is by all accounts talented. He got offers from a lot of schools, including schools that have a history of good QBs (Purdue, Boise State) and other BCS-level schools (MSU, Colorado, Minnesota, etc.) Plus, the coaches seem to trust him enough to move Gardner. He has also looked good in practices and the spring game. More than anything, he will be in his third year of the playbook and practicing and sometimes playing against BCS-level players.
In some ways, he would be like Maxwell for MSU.....but with WRs that are talented and don't drop the ball. Maxwell has performed well this year, even if the rest of the passing game has let him down.
So, can we end this debate before it consumes the entire off-season.
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Peterklima said...
Who do you think starts for the Wolverines?
Options:
1. Bellomy. Pretty talented. Coaches like him and it will be his third year in the system. Has at least some game experience (and hopefully will get more this weekend.)
2. Garnder. Was the #2 back-up until a need arose at WR. Obviously, he should stay at WR, but he has to change his own mind. If he doesn't, it could be him.
2. Morris. Very talented. But, he will be a true frosh. Outsiders seem to think he is good enough to come in and start.
Personally, I think there should be no debate - but there will be. It should be Bellomy. He is by all accounts talented. He got offers from a lot of schools, including schools that have a history of good QBs (Purdue, Boise State) and other BCS-level schools (MSU, Colorado, Minnesota, etc.) Plus, the coaches seem to trust him enough to move Gardner. He has also looked good in practices and the spring game. More than anything, he will be in his third year of the playbook and practicing and sometimes playing against BCS-level players.
In some ways, he would be like Maxwell for MSU.....but with WRs that are talented and don't drop the ball. Maxwell has performed well this year, even if the rest of the passing game has let him down.
So, can we end this debate before it consumes the entire off-season.
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RabidWolverine said...
+1. I agree with everything you said. Bellomy should be the guy. People are acting like Morris is already better than Bellomy, and that is just not true imo. No way a true freshman is more suited to play in Borges' offense than a QB who has been in the system for two years.
Morris should redshirt.
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Clint Brewster said...
I thought Gardner made some great strides in terms of maturing as a QB when he came into games in 2011. He is a very talented QB and I think he is better than Bellomy. Don't get me wrong, Bellomy has potential to be an excellent quarterback but Gardner will know the offense better as a senior next year. With Gardner's athletic ability, if he can be smart with the football, he's a really dangerous player. That being said, he might be more valuable to the team because of the lack of receivers at Michigan.
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MrWoodson said...
I agree with this post 99.9%.* Also, for all you people who think Gardner should stay at WR and Morris should red shirt, who do you expect to be Bellomy's backup? QBs get dinged up in games all the time. Sometimes they even run into trouble off the field or get injured in a game for the rest of the season. Or your starter throws three picks in the first quarter of a big game and you want to have another option in your back pocket.
A major program like Michigan should always have four scholarship QBs. We have skated by with three the past couple of years because we never replaced Tate. And we've been lucky. No one else got seriously injured or was suspended for off field issues or transferred. But with Denard graduating, if we permanently move Gardner to WR and seriously want Morris to red shirt, we will be down to one active scholarship QB and two sophomore walk-ons that probably are walk-ons for a reason. IMO that's crazy.
* The reason I didn't put 100% is that by next year we will have Gallon, Dileo, Jackson, Robinson, Darboh, Chesson and Funchess as WRs and TEs who can catch and have some game experience. IMO we will be ok at WR without Gardner and it is more important to have another QB to protect Morris' red shirt.
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Clint Brewster said...
I regards to the receivers, I honestly don't think that is a great group of proven guys. Gallon has done some great things but has been somewhat inconsistent this year. Gardner is probably better than all of them expect maybe Gallon at this point.
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MrWoodson said...
Physically, you are probably right. But Gardner is still learning the position. Someone like Darboh who played WR in HS might have some advantages in route running and technique and will be in his second year as a WR at UM just like Gardner. Also, Gallon and Dileo are very good slot guys. They are not big enough to be effective on the outside (see Roundtree) but they will be in the slot regardless of which position Gardner plays. And I am not saying Gardner wouldn't be the best WR, but at least we have a number of other solid options at the position if he plays QB. Alternatively, if he plays WR, who backs up Bellomy?
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Clint Brewster said...
I'm still not sold on the receivers. Darboh could be a good player but we just don't know yet. We know Gardner can be a big-time receiver from what he has shown already this year. Your right, the QB position will be thin if Gardner stays at WR. Morris would have to back him up and then a walk-on as the third guy. It would probably be best to move Gardner back to QB but theres pros and cons either way. I just really think Michigan should have taken a QB in the 2012 class and two in 2013.
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Ducksworth said...
I think it should be Bellomy. I think he'll surprise people next year and Gardner will continue being a future first round WR IMO.
And Morris can back him up and still redshirt
We'll hopefully not use him, but if we need a QB to come in and replace Bellomy, we can burn his RS. This post was edited by MrWoodson on 10/10/2012 at 1:20 PM
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Clint Brewster said...
Now that I've thought more about this, a possibility could be Bellomy starting at QB next year but if he goes down they could just move Gardner back to QB. This would mean Gardner would have to get snaps in practice at both WR and QB. Just a possibility I've seen done before.
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Saintlex said...
I have a question .. figure I'd drop it in this thread.
What have you seen from Devin that gives you such high confidence in his at QB? I'm wondering because I haven't seen anything that would make me feel comfortable with him running the offense.
That's not to say he cant do it .. I just haven't seen it.
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Peterklima said...
Interesting. Has that actually worked anywhere? What if gardner is the #1 or #2 receiver next year? That would mean that losing your starting QB would also mean losing your best WR target at the same time. He would have to be MUCH MUCH MUCH better than Bellomy IMO for that to happen.
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WillyWolverine said...
I have the same question about Bellomy. Everyone is acting like Bellomy has done something in a game that makes them all confident that Bellomy will be good. I have not seen anything from Bellomy to make me have confidence that we should just give him the starting QB spot.
My opinion is that it should be open competition in the spring and if Gardner turns out to be the best option at QB then so be it. Best case scenario would be that Gardner can stay at WR and Bellomy turns out good enough to lead this team.



















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