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4 months ago via 247Sports Mobile

Kenetic said...
Don't think it's about effort for ND. I'm not sure who is surprised by this, but I'm not.
Dual-threat QBs just don't do well against Saban defenses; remember Borges said that? E.G. for Notre Dame is young, excitable, and is not a pure pocket passer. Notre Dame damn sure can't run the ball UP the middle against Alabama; they have to attack the edges. Bama has the team speed and discipline to negate that.
My co-worker bet dinner on ND. I **told** him that Alabama was going to run the ball against the Irish, and effectively at that. On the flip side, I had my doubts that ND would be able to string long drives together against Alabama.
Alabama is just a better overall football team than ND is.

I seem to remember a certain dual-threat QB that did pretty well against Bama. I think he won the Heisman.
In seriousness, though, your statement is generally correct.
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Kenetic said...
Don't think it's about effort for ND. I'm not sure who is surprised by this, but I'm not.
Dual-threat QBs just don't do well against Saban defenses; remember Borges said that?

How do you explain Manziel's success against them? Also, Cam and Tebow.
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Nick_Wolverines said...
That's the main reason I'm hoping for a shutout.

Same here. I want them to get utterly humiliated. I've been telling people all year that the Irish weren't nearly as good as their record, and ND fans all year have been arguing otherwise. It's nice to be proven right.
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4 months ago

The question of the second half
More ND points or footage of Aj's Girlfriend?
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TAMUWolverine said...
How do you explain Manziel's success against them? Also, Cam and Tebow.

This. It isn't that "dual-threat" QBs can't have success against Bama - in fact, dual-threat QBs are pretty much the only ones who have had success. It's that bad QBs can't have success against Bama. Golson has gotten better, but he still just isn't that good.
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TAMUWolverine said...
How do you explain Manziel's success against them? Also, Cam and Tebow.

Apparently Manziel is the exception to the rule (I left out that Borges opined dual-threat QBs don't RUN well against Saban; that's what I meant to say - as opposed to not "doing well"). Am definitely curious about how he'll fare in the follow-up meeting.
Newton didn't do jack squat against Alabama on the ground. Less that 2 yd per carry (22 attempts; 39 yards?).
Won't look up all of the Tebow games against Alabama, but he averaged under 4 yards per carry in December 2008.
So that above comment that "bad QBs can't have success against Bama" is incorrect as well, considering it attempted to piggyback on Cam and Tebow, both of who were absolutely stuffed on the ground.
Point is, based on Saban's general success against dual-threat QBs, I don't see Everett doing well in the 2nd half since they're taking away his ability to generate offense on the ground.
Edits to clean up typos.

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Kenetic said...
Apparently Manziel is the exception to the rule (I left out that Borges opined dual-threat QBs don't RUN well against Saban; that's what I meant to say - as opposed to not "doing well").
Newton didn't do jack squat against Alabama on the ground. Less that 1 yd per carry (22 attempts; 39 yards?).
Won't look up all of the Tebow games against Alabama, but he averaged under 4 yards per carry in December 2008.
So that above comment that "bad QBs can't have success against Bama" is incorrect as well, considering it attempted to piggyback on Cam and Tebow, both of who were absolutely stuffed on the ground.

The other part of Texas A&M was that they did a good job on Bama's running game.
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ACWolverine said...
The question of the second half More ND points or footage of Aj's Girlfriend?

I'm going with Mom/girlfriend, but spotting ND 6 pts from the previous 12 times they were shown.
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Kenetic said...
Apparently Manziel is the exception to the rule (I left out that Borges opined dual-threat QBs don't RUN well against Saban; that's what I meant to say - as opposed to not "doing well"). Am definitely curious about how he'll fare in the follow-up meeting.
Newton didn't do jack squat against Alabama on the ground. Less that 2 yd per carry (22 attempts; 39 yards?).
Won't look up all of the Tebow games against Alabama, but he averaged under 4 yards per carry in December 2008.
So that above comment that "bad QBs can't have success against Bama" is incorrect as well, considering it attempted to piggyback on Cam and Tebow, both of who were absolutely stuffed on the ground.
Point is, based on Saban's general success against dual-threat QBs, I don't see Everett doing well in the 2nd half since they're taking away his ability to generate offense on the ground.
Edits to clean up typos.

+1 Interesting post. I knew that Cam and Tebow had success against Bama, I just didn't realize that it wasn't on the ground.
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4 months ago

And so it continues...
I have to agree with Herbstreit, why does ND continue to throw at Millner?
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That was a nice INT.
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Nick_Wolverines said...
That was a nice INT.

I honestly do not understand why Kelly insists on throwing at Milliner.
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A2Wolverines said...
And so it continues...
I have to agree with Herbstreit, why does ND continue to throw at Millner?

Because they are morons.
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4 months ago

Watching Lacy run is EXACTLY what D. Green will be doing at Michigan. Big, bruising back that will run over people.
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4 months ago via 247Sports Mobile

I hope our line end up like Barrett Jones, dude is a monster.
I also cannot tell if McCarron is really that good or is it just his line.
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4 months ago

I am taking great joy in watching Notre Dame's complete embarrassment. I find Mike Golic to be an annoying personality and for once will actually want to listen to him tomorrow.
Also love to watch Lou Holtz eat as much crow as physically possible.

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4 months ago via 247Sports Mobile

I hope the Lions draft Millner.
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They scored damnit!
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4 months ago

Damn, no shut out. Too bad.
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Nick_Wolverines said...
I hope the Lions draft Millner.

I hope they draft Werner or Jones, but Milliner would be a solid selection too.
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Jones is my dream pick but, he looks to be the first or second pick. Wouldn't mind Werner, I just love a shutdown corner.
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4 months ago

Any love for the prediction? I guess I was three points off.
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4 months ago

Irish comeback. Watch out. All they need is three onside kicks...
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4 months ago via 247Sports Mobile

That little fight was by far the entertaining part of this game.
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A2Wolverines said...
That little fight was by far the entertaining part of this game.

Finally saw it tonight cuz I went to bed before the 2nd half. I wonder how AJ's girlfriend felt about his tantrum causing his own center to shove him like that.
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