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Spartytruth said...
I agree its early - but all the "michigan football" slogans in the world are going to be a stand in for actually having a gameplan to have your best player get in the open field. the fact that they players were over matched is one thing - but to have no gameplan whatsoever is indefensible.
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MrWoodson said...
Except for Denard's overthrows early in the game (too much adrenalin?) and his pick 6 at the end of the first half (he just didn't see the LB?), I thought we looked pretty good. Well, actually, throw in Avery's early breakdowns when he had to come in for Countess, too. But it was the first game of the season and we were playing the most dominant and complete team in the country over the past 3-4 years. Everyone who plays Bama this year is going to get trucked by their rushing game. With the early mistakes we made in this game, the score quickly got out of hand, but I was impressed with our pressure on McCarron and the way we fought back in the second half. Assuming Countess/Lewan/Moore are not out very long and assuming Toussaint is back soon, I see us being a better all around football team this year than last year. Gardner has tons of potential at WR and Norfleet is a very real return threat. And our pass protection of Denard held up well against a very good defense. IMO we looked better in this game than we did in either of our losses last year and in those games we weren't playing teams anywhere in the same league as Alabama. Just my
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Any word on Countess and Lewan? If not, my silver lining is the team played poorly. Borges called an awful game. I hope they learn from this, but being waxed like that makes me unsure of whether or not that happens.
Bama fans thanks for being classy as heck at the game. Talked to a lot of you guys and y'all were awesome.
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MichaelHardenII said...
Any word on Countess and Lewan? If not, my silver lining is the team played poorly. Borges called an awful game. I hope they learn from this, but being waxed like that makes me unsure of whether or not that happens.
Bama fans thanks for being classy as heck at the game. Talked to a lot of you guys and y'all were awesome.
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I agree its early - but all the "michigan football" slogans in the world are going to be a stand in for actually having a gameplan to have your best player get in the open field. the fact that they players were over matched is one thing - but to have no gameplan whatsoever is indefensible.
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vcmarsh1 said...
I was at a concert last night so wasn't able to watch the game. Watching it now, and MAN, I'm just glad we do not play another defense and offense that resembles that one.
Positives--Not much of anything. Norfleet looked good on his 17 kickoff returns.
Negatives--Everything else. Defense got absolutely worked. Offense got completely worked.
Silver lining: As i said earlier, we do not play another team anywhere near that level for the rest of the season.
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EF_Wolverine said...
Hard to take away too much from one game...especially a game where we ended up like flies on a windshield.
Nevertheless:
1. Norfleet will dust all of Breaston's Michigan return records by the time he's done. I don't know if he'll ever see a significant role on offense, but he'll be worth it alone as a return guy.
2. James Ross showed off those instincts he's known for. Assuming he doesn't look like a deer in the headlights in the next few weeks, he'll be starting by midseason I think. Morgan isn't "bad," he's just very limited athletically (which is why he was a 3* that we beat Northwestern for, as opposed to Ross being a top 100ish player with offers from MSU, OSU, PSU). I didn't notice as much from Bolden tonight (doesn't mean he didn't do anything), but it wouldn't surprise me if he takes Demens' spot away, too. Bolden and Ross as 3.5 year starters sounds about right.
3. Jesus, Lewan had his head up his ass tonight with the penalties. If he's regressed in that regard, that's going to be a thorn in our side all year. Thought he had put the dumb penalties behind him.
4. Gardner has all the tools to be a really good WR, he's just rough around the edges (obviously), and, sorry to say, he doesn't have a QB that can cover up for any "mistakes" he makes at WR. WRs who get by on physical talent alone (which is what DG is doing until he gets more reps under his belt) perform better when they've got an elite passing QB putting them in good spots. Denard's just not the consistent passer we need him to be.
5. Extension of #4: I'm hoping to chalk it up to Bama's defense...but Denard looked exactly the same as last year. I know there was a lot of griping about Borges tonight, but there was only so much that could be done against an opponent like this. Which leads me to...
6. The overall insanity that I knew would result from tonight. This game was scheduled back by Dave Brandon in 2010 when it was already clear that Rich Rod was a dead man walking, and Brandon KNEW he'd be hitting the reset button on the program. I suppose the argument could be made that a game like this was still good to schedule to see where we're at as a program right now, but for my money, this was an asinine piece of scheduling, and from my vantage point the AD hung the team out to be slaughtered in primetime. This game was well, well above our paygrade right now; I said it when it was scheduled, I said it all throughout the offseason, and it was apparent by the end of the first quarter tonight. This wasn't the meek, fold-in-big-game Virginia Tech team that we barely got past in the Sugar Bowl; this is the premiere program in America right now. A bunch of UM fans pointed at Alabama's losses on defense as reason for optimism. That's not the way it works in Tuscaloosa now. Will they give up more than the 8 PPG they gave up last year? Sure. But they're still in a place where they simply plug in the next guy after the stars leave. We are several years away from being in such a position. Trey DePriest would be the best linebacker on our roster if he was here (which he would've been if RR wasn't such a failure); he's a co-starter for Bama.
The same things that led to tonight's bloodletting are the same things that will prevent this team from winning the Big Ten. Lack of playmakers on the outside on offense (Roundtree's a terrible fit in this type of offense, he's the perfect RR slot receiver, catching bubble screens), and lack of top end quality on the interior of the defensive line. The former will allow teams like MSU, Nebraska, and OSU to load up on Denard. The latter will allow those teams to move the ball on the ground, something you have to stop in the Big Ten.
Never bought into the Top 10, preseason Big Ten favorites hype. I look at this roster, and I see an 8-4 team that ends up in the Outback or Capital One or Gator Bowl. A disappointment to many given the senior QB and the expectations placed on the team by the media? Sure. But I have never looked at this team and seen a conference champion. There are gaps on the roster being filled by young players (look at all the freshmen that played tonight) and under-skilled guys being coached up; that's not a conference champion, so if the season unfolds like I think and we end up playing in one of the Florida bowls on NYD, that's a success to me.
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Wolverines89 said...
agree on everything. that's how i seen it. know one on our schedule is any where near the talent that bama has. Gardner looked good, just bad passes from denard. norfleet is a lock to start every game at KR unless he has fumble issues.
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neoavatara said...
To win the SEC you need luck on top of skill...Bama showed that last year, and they didn't have luck. Their game with LSU probably decides who is going to the big game.
As for Michigan and positives:
-First, unlike other teams that have commented on this thread, Michigan didn't give up. -This is by far the most talented team we will face this year before the bowl...no question. - I think that we will be able to run the ball. Bama's front 7 is really really good, but our OL did get some push on them. The problem is our RB have no breaking ability or shifting without Toussaint. We would have lost if he was there, but he would have probably rushed for 70-100 yards. - WR may not be so bad, but we need to move Roundtree to the slot...he is not useful on the outside. Gardner is the real deal, if he learns to run routes. Gallon should be our other outside guy. - Our DL is a mixed bag, but when I focused on them early, they were holding their own...our depth is the problem. - Our corners held up decently without Countess. Depth is back. - Hagerup and Norfleet were probably our best players last night :-(
I actually am feeling pretty good about the rest of our season. Borges needs to unleash Denard more and earlier. And don't treat him as a pure pocket passer, fergodsakes.
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