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One game is not going to change the perception of the Big 10 vs the SEC... even if we do happen to beat Alabama next year.

It's going to take a lot more from the conference than just the one game. We've gained our recent reputation by simply not being that good. Yes those big time OSU losses hurt our national perception. But our teams have been losing to FCS schools at a pretty surprising rate, struggling with bigger out of conference match ups and have a horrid 11-19 bowl record since the '07 season. (Compare that to the SEC at 24-15 and 4 National Champions). It's on the conference as a whole.

The fact of the matter is the SEC has produced some amazingly good teams and the Big Ten has struggled in that department. It's going to take time, wins, and good teams to change the current view. It's also not the Media's fault that we may have a rematch in the NC game... it's just how all the chips have fallen.

Arkansas says hi.

What team do you suggest for the Championship Game (other than Alabama)?

Oregon? Stanford? Oklahoma? Oklahoma State? Virginia Tech? Boise? Houston?

The 2 best teams should play. Up to this point, the 2 best teams are LSU and Alabama.

The argument isn't who makes a good #3. You are arguing that Alabama shouldn't be in the game. You think Oklahoma State is better than Alabama?

As far as Arkansas...they will get their shot against LSU.

If Arkansas only beat one ranked team...OK State has only beat one ranked team.

If Arkansas can beat lsu who would be number 1 bama or arkansas

I think Okie State should go to the NC title game (if they win out) over Bama. I think the same for Houston.

We can have arguments all day about who is better between two teams in different conferences with the same record...but it is mostly "belief" and such. Even assuming, for argument sake, that you think Bama is better than Okie State and Houston, they already had LSU AT HOME and lost. They had their shot. The national title game ia all about who "earned their shot" throughout the year. Sometimes its not always the "best team" in everyone's eyes. Sometimes the best team at the time of bowl selection dropped a game or two early in the season.

I know you are a MSU fan, so here is an example. MSU won the tie-breaker in the Leaders Division. Even if they lose to Northwestern and UM pounds OSU, Michigan State still goes to the BTCG. Even if it seems they are not the "better team" at the end of the year than UM (in that scenario), they earned their shot by taking care of business earlier in the season AT HOME.

Houston or Okie State should not be denied the same rights.

I stopped reading right there.

Your reasoning is flawless.

Houston has not played a great schedule, but they have taken care of business.

I have watched enough WVU, Boise State, TCU, etc. BCS bowl game wins to know that even teams from bad conferences can be legit. A national title, even for a big program, is a combination of fortunate players, events, etc. that are rare to come by.... like Houston's record. I think it is harder for them to prove it though.

My previous SOS reasoning is that teams with identical records should be compared based on schedule. But if a team has a better record (like Houston compared to Alabama) there is little reason to revert to SOS.

Once again, we are just talking about who is better, not who "deserves" to be there. Bama lost its shot at LSU. It does not deserve a second chance while Houston sits on the sidelines.

If that one loss team already had a shot at the other NC game team and lost.... YES, without a doubt.

I would take Houston over Bama. Not sure if I would take them over the other one loss teams or not.

That is interesting....but iit is not the question that we face here.

Of course. You can't just take Houston over all the one loss teams. You'd have to look at who they played.

Did you eliminate Oregon (before their loss to USC) because they lost to LSU earlier?

Houston over Boise and Oregon.... I think.