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BlueRocks21 said...
It's really amazing how stupid Urban is he goes out of state for players he could get in Ohio just because he can say he recruits national. He did the same thing when he was at UF left the state way to much and let a lot of talent leave the state which pissed off a lot of UF fans. Jim Tressel understood this really well he knew that if he took the best 15-20 players in state every year you would not only help your team but hurt others in the BIG as well thus making things much easier for you and harder on teams like Michigan which happened under Loyd Carr we got shut out of Ohio for the most part and it sucked because it hurt us. We need to recruit Ohio hard every year and thanks to Urban he is making life easier for us there.
This post was edited by SonnyD on 3/16/2013 at 1:55 PM
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inuyesta said...
I mean, let's wait until this strategy actually backfires before we label Urban "stupid." His first two years at OSU, he's landed the #7 and the #2 rated classes by 247 Composite. At Florida, his classes rated #15, #2, #1, #3, #11, and #2, according to Rivals. I agree that there's danger in allowing other schools to come into Ohio, and maybe he got lucky by closing well on NSD last cycle, but for the moment his strategy is working...it's not like he's out there chasing no-chancers, a lot of these Southern kids are very interested in coming to play for him.
Two things that should also be noted: -Tressel's teams, for all their B1G dominance, got very lucky to win their one championship and got absolutely killed in the other two NCGs he reached...imo, winning the B1G is relatively meaningless if you can't compete at the highest level, and you can't compete at the highest level if you're focusing exclusively or even primarily on Ohio. It's a talented state, but not [i[that[/i] talented. -Even though Urban is obviously less focused on Ohio than Tressel was, Ohio State remains very attractive for Ohio prospects. We've made a lot of the fact that Berger is like 6th on Ohio's LB board and at or near the top of ours, but still Berger has us neck-and-neck with OSU.
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SonnyD said...
It's really amazing how anybody can talk bad about that coach after what he has accomplished. You should just be happy about this instead of looking like a fool criticizing the best coach in the land. Yes he'd be considered better than Saban nationwide if he oversigned, cut and grey shirted like him imo.
Hindsight towards the end maybe he shouldve stayed in Florida more. Even though alot of players left early consecutive years. It's kind of hard turning away 5 star players like Shariff Floyd, Will Hill and others whether they pan out or not.
Let's not forget Florida has 7x the talent of Ohio so the comparison is kind of silly. Sticking largely in Ohio would be a mistake. tOSU is aiming for NATIONAL Championships not B1G Championships. Just mainly recruiting Ohio will land you the latter but the former would be highly unlikely.
Sidenote: There were just as many oos star players, if not more, from JT's tenure than in state. And his classes were what? 80%+ Ohio kids?
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CMXI said...
Oh, please, don't blame it on the scholarship numbers. Meyer was at the premier football school in one of the nation's best talent-producing states. Nobody's denying that he's a good coach, but he's not Saban.
For the record, Saban averages about 2 more recruits/class than Meyer did at Florida - not exactly a huge difference:
Saban (at AL): 2008: 32 2009: 28 2010: 26 2011: 23 2012: 26 2013: 25 Average: 26.66
Meyer (at FLA): 2006: 27 2007: 27 2008: 23 2009: 17 2010: 27 Average: 24.2
Hell, with the exception of an uncharacteristically small 2009, Meyer averaged 26 recruits/class.
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CMXI said...
It would be stupid to rank by star average. A class with 2 5-stars and 10 4-stars may have a higher average, but I'll take the class with 18 4-stars and 4 3-stars any day. With the bust rate of college football players and the nature of injuries in the game, tiny classes are (understandably) devalued.
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Oh, please, don't blame it on the scholarship numbers. Meyer was at the premier football school in one of the nation's best talent-producing states. Nobody's denying that he's a good coach, but he's not Saban.
For the record, Saban averages about 2 more recruits/class than Meyer did at Florida - not exactly a huge difference:
Saban (at AL): 2008: 32 2009: 28 2010: 26 2011: 23 2012: 26 2013: 25 Average: 26.66
Meyer (at FLA): 2006: 27 2007: 27 2008: 23 2009: 17 2010: 27 Average: 24.2
Hell, with the exception of an uncharacteristically small 2009, Meyer averaged 26 recruits/class.
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CMXI said...
If Butch Jones had just had one more month, I don't think Bell would've gone to OSU.
Also, this bears consideration - our signing of Derrick Green probably indirectly contributed to OSU whiffing on Hurd. Tennessee's depth chart at RB took a hit without Green, and early playing time undoubtedly was appealing to a top talent like Hurd. I'm sure he would've thought long and hard about committing to Tennessee if they already had another 5-star RB in the class ahead of him.
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Urban is not better than Saban. 





You can't be serious. Come back when urbs wins 3 natty's in a 4 year span guy.



Ive been right on everything else ive ever stated in the history of message boards though!



Jalen Hurd to OSU, by way of Univ of Tennessee first