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widowmaker1 said...
This is my first post as a subscribing member of this board. I've been reading all the free info for over a year. A recent string of events caused me to buy a subscription (Steve Lorenz, Derrick Green). The question I have for you is this. Brady Hoke seems to be a tireless recruiter who is genuinely well liked and respected by the prospects, the parents and the coaches. The staff under his direction has never sleep mentality, always blazing the recruiting trail. But MICHIGAN is a brand that not even RR could damage. The opportunity to be a Michigan man is popular again. The block M once again shines bright (like the signal used to call batman) for the college football world to see. So the question I leave for all my new friends is Man or Brand?
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kylebennett7127 said...
I think he was very succesful before coming ro michigan. Coach of the year in two different conferences is a pretty amazing feat, no matter what level of football. The overall records can be kind of thrown out since he was brought in to rebuild both times
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Steve Lorenz said...
Tangible; he was a .500-ish coach. To outsiders or those that didn't take more than ten seconds to look at what he had actually done, he was not "successful". I think what he did at his first few stops was incredible, especially Ball State. To a 17 year-old kid, they didn't know his name or what he had done.
He couldn't walk in and sell himself as a big winner like some can. To me, it makes his ability to recruit early on even more impressive. When Michigan does start winning at a higher level, the combination of him as a coach and Michigan as a program, along with his ability to sell the program as a whole should keep the program at a top level for years.
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kylebennett7127 said...
Agreed with everything. I just dont believe you can define success by simple wins and losses when you are asked to build something at programs that have never had anythimg before. He wasnt rebuilding, he was building from tje ground up. And we are not outsiders, we are the michigan 247 board. The question was polled to us, so im not sure we care what outsiders think. But no doubt, it is incredible what he has managed to accomplish. If the trend continues, there is no limit
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CMXI said...
USC is an example of a brand surviving. Note: the kids who are sticking with USC are the Cali kids and the ones who have non-football motives for wanting to be in LA (like LMIII). So many of the other kids are jumping ship because Lane can't keep them. USC had the potential for one of the best classes ever, but it fell apart.
Ole Miss, on the other hand, is just an example of a lot of things coming together at the right time. Nkemdiche's brother plays there, Standifer got in there after he didn't qualify here, and Mississippi produced some amazing homegrown talent this year (like Antonio Conner and Chris Jones). I will bet you any amount of money that Ole Miss' class next year doesn't even sniff the top 10. This is one of those once-in-a-decade classes that comes together through no particular extra effort on the part of the coaches.
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widowmaker1 said...
This is my first post as a subscribing member of this board. I've been reading all the free info for over a year. A recent string of events caused me to buy a subscription (Steve Lorenz, Derrick Green). The question I have for you is this. Brady Hoke seems to be a tireless recruiter who is genuinely well liked and respected by the prospects, the parents and the coaches. The staff under his direction has never sleep mentality, always blazing the recruiting trail. But MICHIGAN is a brand that not even RR could damage. The opportunity to be a Michigan man is popular again. The block M once again shines bright (like the signal used to call batman) for the college football world to see. So the question I leave for all my new friends is Man or Brand?
I think its both,the Michigan name alone is good for at least a top 25 class but as we saw under RR it doesn't guarantee a top 5 class. It gives Hoke a lot to sell with the Big House, winged helmets, great academics and long rich tradition but as you mentioned Hoke also resonates with these kids and their parents. He genuinely cares about these kids and they can tell. So I feel like we'll always recruit well but not everyone can consistently bring us in top 5 classes.
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Hoke Express said...
I think its both,the Michigan name alone is good for at least a top 25 class but as we saw under RR it doesn't guarantee a top 5 class. It gives Hoke a lot to sell with the Big House, winged helmets, great academics and long rich tradition but as you mentioned Hoke also resonates with these kids and their parents. He genuinely cares about these kids and they can tell. So I feel like we'll always recruit well but not everyone can consistently bring us in top 5 classes.
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This is my first post as a subscribing member of this board. I've been reading all the free info for over a year. A recent string of events caused me to buy a subscription (Steve Lorenz, Derrick Green). The question I have for you is this. Brady Hoke seems to be a tireless recruiter who is genuinely well liked and respected by the prospects, the parents and the coaches. The staff under his direction has never sleep mentality, always blazing the recruiting trail. But MICHIGAN is a brand that not even RR could damage. The opportunity to be a Michigan man is popular again. The block M once again shines bright (like the signal used to call batman) for the college football world to see. So the question I leave for all my new friends is Man or Brand?
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widowmaker1 said...
This is my first post as a subscribing member of this board. I've been reading all the free info for over a year. A recent string of events caused me to buy a subscription (Steve Lorenz, Derrick Green). The question I have for you is this. Brady Hoke seems tobe a tireless recruiter who is genuinely well liked and respected by the prospects, the parents and the coaches. The staff under his direction has never sleep mentality, always blazing the recruiting trail. But MICHIGAN is a brand that not even RR could damage. The opportunity to be a Michigan man is popular again. The block M once again shines bright (like the signal used to call batman) for the college football world to see. So the question I leave for all my new friends is Man or Brand?
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I just got my subscription to bc of Steve and I thought not better time to do it with green coming to the fold. I think the way hoke won over the fan base and every one around the program was huge. Then he followed it up with a 11-2 season so u can't ask for a better start to the new era.
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