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It's a better school?

Paragraphs 1 and 2 are self-evident. If you don't comprehend them you suffer from any combination of:

Lack of critical thinking skills;
inability to be intellectually honest;
confirmation bias

As to the 3rd paragraph. MSU was founded as the pioneer Land Grant college. A college built from the ground up to be a college of the people. There are MSU extensions in virtually every county in Michigan extending the knowledge and research in a variety of academic areas to where the people of Michigan work and live. See:

http://www.msue.msu.edu/portal/default.cfm?msue_portal_id=25643&page_id=25770&pageset_id=25744

Also, the University of Michigan violently opposed the military in the Vietnam war and ROTC programs on campus. There were numerous violent acts by University of Michigan against our military - including setting fire and damaging ROTC buildings, occupying protests etc.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-07-06/news/ct-met-rotc-national-20110706_1_reserve-officers-training-corps-army-rotc-harvard-students

In contrast, MSU has always had a relatively cordial relationship with the people who serve our country and put their lives on the line for our freedoms. This includes the fact that military quonset huts were stationed on campus where the Breslin Center now stands until the late 70's and early 80s.

Also witness the fact that Mark Hollis honored our military by proposing and helping produce the carrier classic and is going to play Connecticut in Rammstein AFB in Germany this fall. Our support of the military is black and white compare to UMAA.

Additionally, because MSU overwhelmingly educates people from the state of Michigan, and UMAA seems to take pure delight in educating other people outside the state - this fact - on top of the others listed here demonstrate MSU's commitment to the state in contrast to UMAA.

Lastly, if you did not go to college or went to another college besides UMAA and support them - my suggestion that MSU shares values with those people more is a reflection of reality given the facts I've laid out. These are not the words of hatred toward UMAA but of reality and pride of being a Michigan State Alumni.

I'm sorry I just can't wrap my head around certain fanbases. Being an MSU fan and talking shit? How is that possible?

MSU will never come close to winning a title in our lifetime. Surely MSU fans know this? Big Ten title every decade and a half? Sure. But anything beyond that is simply not realistic. MSU (like Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois) is a spring board school to a better job somewhere else in the country.

I just can't fathom talking shit the way MSU fans do on this site. Even on Rivals and Scout they're smart enough to keep their collective mouths shut. It is baffling to say the least.

I don't think that anyone here is arguing against that. At least I'm not. It's perfectly justified in those cases.

Bro - since MSU and ND re-started the series back in 1997, ND is 6-10 against MSU.

Notre Dame is having it's first truly good year in a generation and now you're drunk with power?

And let's not talk about leather helmet football when the game resembled rugby and incomplete forward passes were ruled turnovers.

Humility goes both ways.

It's easy, we can talk shit when we win. There it is, and we have done good that last few years.

We could say the same thing about ND. Watch...

How could you be a ND fan and talk shit, I just don't understand. ND has not even gotten close to any championship since I was born over 20 years ago. I have never seen them play a meaningful game in my life. As a State fan the non-conference is just like a preseason game for the real season, I can't imagine if my school just played preseason games all year! All I have to look forward to is a new coach every four years. ND is just a spring board to, well getting fired.

Or how about USC.

I can't imagine being a USC fan. Having all of those great wins, all of those great teams and knowing they were all a sham! They have won everything, yet they have won nothing! I can not imagine what that must be like to have all that success and realize it is so fake.

Really not that hard.

Ok but what about other than your 6-10 record against ND?

How do you respond to all of the other points I made?

Then I suppose you could argue overall history. And I win 10 out of 10 times. I love how people like to only go back to early 90's. Like the previous 100 years didn't count or something.

ND and USC recruit nationally also. Bigger fanbases. More national coverage. As far as history goes putting MSU in the same sentence as Michigan, ND, USC??

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Eh, I'm not the one calling other people pieces of shit, but hey, that type of argument and rhetoric just screams "classy."

It amuses me that all the name-calling in this thread is coming from the same people saying I'm the piece of shit. Solid logic, bro.

Your inability to wrap your head around any concept whatsoever is not surprising in the slightest. You don't have to apologize.

The fact is: most Spartans don't bother to talk shit. We leave that to bizarrely arrogant "fans" of schools that routinely underperform expectations despite numerous built-in advantages. It's cool. Please continue.

Dude, seriously? Do you read tRCMB?

I don't know man, Alabama's string of top-3 recruiting classes really didn't get them anything, I don't think recruiting rankings matter at all.