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TheIbleedgreen said...
To all the buckeyes who think they will just get back to the same type of ball that was played when Tressel was in charge WAKE UP!! Urban needed quite possibly the best player ever in college football to win at UF, a team that recruited the lights out of OSU!! Once Tebow left, Urban failed miserably. For those that think he's just gonna come into the B1G and run the show you are highly delusional. Braxton, yes, a great talent is no Tebow or Alex Smith. Urban's staff have shown no ability to develop talent like the staffs at Iowa, Wisconsin, or MSU have. The B1G as a whole is no longer scared of Mighty OSU. Spread offenses do not sustain in the B1G, just ask UM, MSU, PU, and ILL. If MSU loses this year I'll come back to eat crow, but I was also the same guy that asked you OSU fans last year what would happen if MSU won in cbus and 98% of you gave Dantonios squad (the man that delivered your only recent championship) zero chance. I didn't come and gloat, I like talking football.... But to act like UM (wow his initials are the same as your arch rivals) is going to take a 6 win team and make them undefeated with a tougher schedule I'd have to ask, what are you smoking!? My father and 2 of my best friends are huge buckeyes and to be quite honest, OSU was respectable and a team I'd root for over Michigan. But lately the mix of Clarett, Pryor, Meyer, and the majority of the buckeye fan base' we're Osu, we're the best, and everyone else is beneath us is just sickening! I hope Meyer fails miserably, not for the players who work their butts off, but for the disgraceful fans OSU has been recently known for and the attitude of Meyer himself. It's a shame Tressel stood up for a couple dumbass athletes you had.... That was a man of character, one that should make a University and conference proud. but you(Osu) are no longer his, and your football team has now become hated by all because of a man that will likely be gone once Braxton has moved on. You are no longer the juggernaut you we're just a short time ago.
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This would be an argument acceptable by a Wolverine maybe. But Sparty let's be serious here. I mean come on. You have had a couple of good years. That's right. A COUPLE. Not a long times worth. A COUPLE. Last years bowl win was the first in how long again? Enlighten me. Please. When you put together a long streak and are considered above average in college football lore, come back and post. Until then, leave this kind of stuff to OSU, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Alabama, and USC fans.
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TheIbleedgreen said...
Where did I say MSU was at the top or the best at anything? I was stating my opinion of UM( the coach) and the fans of OSU.
As for rooting for Osu over UM( the team), after having lived in south fl for nine years and dealing with generally good UM fans(most likely alum) and seeing in general how cocky and brash Osu fans were in the same times, I became a little more tolerant of UM(the team) being I'm from Michigan as well. Hoke is a decent enough guy, and you're right, until you're beating up on is again why hate UM(the team)? I'll be there for the game this year, so cheers!
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foubazzi said...
This would be an argument acceptable by a Wolverine maybe. But Sparty let's be serious here. I mean come on. You have had a couple of good years. That's right. A COUPLE. Not a long times worth. A COUPLE. Last years bowl win was the first in how long again? Enlighten me. Please. When you put together a long streak and are considered above average in college football lore, come back and post. Until then, leave this kind of stuff to OSU, Michigan, Texas, Florida, Alabama, and USC fans.
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330buckeye said...
Nice little rant,. MSU is not only irrelevant to Ohio State, but to all college fans.
So you can go cry, and finger your ass hole I don't care. Ohio State, and Michigan University runs the BIG, and don't you ever forget.
classic Bucknutz poster...
This post was edited by star69 on 8/21/2012 at 11:29 PM
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C'Mon sparty fan...why is it so hard to hear that OSU will be in the title hunt in 2013? They have the best team (on paper) in the conference and based on recruiting rankings will have for a few more years. Obviously games aren't won based on recruiting ranks, but they are a measure for sustainability of the program. Last years record isn't exactly a good basis for determining the potential for the team. We had to replace a bunch of key starters and had a coaching staff that was completely overwhelmed. MSU was only marginally better than OSU with Bauserman at QB, you didn't even see Braxton. I'm not trying to say that OSU will continue to dominate the conference like we did under Tressel, I don't think anyone will, but you are acting like we have suffered a serious downgrade in the coaching department. Urban is no worse than the second best B1G coach and I would say the top, although Hoke certainly could make a push with a few more years like last year. OSU has a very good staff and is going to continue to get top 10 recruiting classes, there's no reason to think we aren't going to be right at the top of the conference every year. Does that mean we win it every year? No. But I tend to agree with the above poster, you had better prepare yourself for the reality that Michigan and OSU are going to be at the top of this conference for the foreseeable future.
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eatonbux said...
I'm not sure it has to do with arrogance so much as Tressel was just that much better than Carr and Rich Rod. I currently think that Urban is a good bit better than Hoke, although Hoke could easily catch up with an early win or two over Urban at OSU. Don't get me wrong, I think Hoke is going a fantastic job for you guys, its just going to take another year like last year to prove to me that it wasn't a fluke type thing, not that you guys care about my opinion lol. I just don't think we collectively will see the kind of dominance that Tressel had in conference again by anyone. Buckeye fans who think that Urban is going to outperform, or even match Tressel is either a homer, delusional, or both imo. I just don't think a lot of OSU fans appreciate how special the Tressel era was for OSU. Urban will be very good imo, but I just don't see Tressel level dominance from anyone again.
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I'm not sure it has to do with arrogance so much as Tressel was just that much better than Carr and Rich Rod. I currently think that Urban is a good bit better than Hoke, although Hoke could easily catch up with an early win or two over Urban at OSU. Don't get me wrong, I think Hoke is going a fantastic job for you guys, its just going to take another year like last year to prove to me that it wasn't a fluke type thing, not that you guys care about my opinion lol. I just don't think we collectively will see the kind of dominance that Tressel had in conference again by anyone. Buckeye fans who think that Urban is going to outperform, or even match Tressel is either a homer, delusional, or both imo. I just don't think a lot of OSU fans appreciate how special the Tressel era was for OSU. Urban will be very good imo, but I just don't see Tressel level dominance from anyone again.
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TheIbleedgreen said...
To all the buckeyes who think they will just get back to the same type of ball that was played when Tressel was in charge WAKE UP!! Urban needed quite possibly the best player ever in college football to win at UF, a team that recruited the lights out of OSU!! Once Tebow left, Urban failed miserably. For those that think he's just gonna come into the B1G and run the show you are highly delusional. Braxton, yes, a great talent is no Tebow or Alex Smith. Urban's staff have shown no ability to develop talent like the staffs at Iowa, Wisconsin, or MSU have. The B1G as a whole is no longer scared of Mighty OSU. Spread offenses do not sustain in the B1G, just ask UM, MSU, PU, and ILL. If MSU loses this year I'll come back to eat crow, but I was also the same guy that asked you OSU fans last year what would happen if MSU won in cbus and 98% of you gave Dantonios squad (the man that delivered your only recent championship) zero chance. I didn't come and gloat, I like talking football.... But to act like UM (wow his initials are the same as your arch rivals) is going to take a 6 win team and make them undefeated with a tougher schedule I'd have to ask, what are you smoking!? My father and 2 of my best friends are huge buckeyes and to be quite honest, OSU was respectable and a team I'd root for over Michigan. But lately the mix of Clarett, Pryor, Meyer, and the majority of the buckeye fan base' we're Osu, we're the best, and everyone else is beneath us is just sickening! I hope Meyer fails miserably, not for the players who work their butts off, but for the disgraceful fans OSU has been recently known for and the attitude of Meyer himself. It's a shame Tressel stood up for a couple dumbass athletes you had.... That was a man of character, one that should make a University and conference proud. but you(Osu) are no longer his, and your football team has now become hated by all because of a man that will likely be gone once Braxton has moved on. You are no longer the juggernaut you we're just a short time ago.
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TheIbleedgreen said...
To all the buckeyes who think they will just get back to the same type of ball that was played when Tressel was in charge WAKE UP!! Urban needed quite possibly the best player ever in college football to win at UF, a team that recruited the lights out of OSU!! Once Tebow left, Urban failed miserably. For those that think he's just gonna come into the B1G and run the show you are highly delusional. Braxton, yes, a great talent is no Tebow or Alex Smith. Urban's staff have shown no ability to develop talent like the staffs at Iowa, Wisconsin, or MSU have. The B1G as a whole is no longer scared of Mighty OSU. Spread offenses do not sustain in the B1G, just ask UM, MSU, PU, and ILL. If MSU loses this year I'll come back to eat crow, but I was also the same guy that asked you OSU fans last year what would happen if MSU won in cbus and 98% of you gave Dantonios squad (the man that delivered your only recent championship) zero chance. I didn't come and gloat, I like talking football.... But to act like UM (wow his initials are the same as your arch rivals) is going to take a 6 win team and make them undefeated with a tougher schedule I'd have to ask, what are you smoking!? My father and 2 of my best friends are huge buckeyes and to be quite honest, OSU was respectable and a team I'd root for over Michigan. But lately the mix of Clarett, Pryor, Meyer, and the majority of the buckeye fan base' we're Osu, we're the best, and everyone else is beneath us is just sickening! I hope Meyer fails miserably, not for the players who work their butts off, but for the disgraceful fans OSU has been recently known for and the attitude of Meyer himself. It's a shame Tressel stood up for a couple dumbass athletes you had.... That was a man of character, one that should make a University and conference proud. but you(Osu) are no longer his, and your football team has now become hated by all because of a man that will likely be gone once Braxton has moved on. You are no longer the juggernaut you we're just a short time ago.
Hi Guys!
I know you missed me, but let me point out some fatal flaws in this guy's thinking.
First off, on the Urban's staff comment. Luke Fickell was the linebackers coach or co-backers (don't know which, but he was at least partly responsible for the last 10 years linebackers). I'm sure we can agree they were better than Iowa, WIsconsin. or MSU's backers over the last decade. Can we agree on that? Okay good. Everett Wither's was the DC at UNC and was partly responsible for the good to great UNC defenses during his tenure. Coombs has been a high school coach, Colerain's coach to be exact. They're a pretty good high school football team, Right? Tom Herman was responsible for the offensive explosion by Rice and Iowa State. That QB that beat Okie State said his growth was directly tied to Herman's coaching. Warrnier was the O-line coach at Kansas when the went 12-0 and the O-line coach for ND the past few years. He's known all over the coaching world as a guy who can do more with less. Drayton was the running-back coach at Florida during Meyer's tenure. They were decent. The juries still out on Mikie V, and Zach Smith. Smith showed potential at Temple and Marshall. This evidence can be disputed by saying, their previous coaching stops do not equal Ohio States or Your guy's level. Which is true (All except for Fickell). What cannot be disputed is that this evidence does point to the fact that they can develop talent.
You guys have had little to no problem with the spread. Your offense was just fine. Purdue's and NW's problem is lack of talent but other than that. Their offenses are fine. Nebraska's spread work alright. So, the spread won't work in the B1G is just a myth. The offenses aren't the problem the talent and defense are.
The tougher schedule comment is just laughable. Have you seen our schedule? To say tough is way overstating it. Kinda like saying my high school football team is a tougher opponent than Massilon (My team went 1-9 that season, btw)
The fan comment is a matter of one's opinion and perspective as is Tressel being a man of character. I think he's a great man btw.
Oh yeah- I told you guys that I would come back and apologize if Dymonte didn't flip. I'm sorry. I believed the wrong guy.
This post was edited by dkerns on 8/23/2012 at 7:27 PM
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