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I agree completely. However, it obviously didn't eliminate decommitments this year. I forget where, but I read about a recruiting analyst who suggested that the terminology used in recruiting be changed. Rather than verbal commitment, call it verbal intent. I kinda like that idea. Maybe reserve the term verbal commitment for a situation when the HS school coach doesn't allow decommitments.

OK, but I think it'd be worthwhile to distinguish the case where de-intenting (?) is not allowed by the HS coach. So undecided, verbal intent, verbal commitment, and letter of commitment as the different stages?

This is what happened with Pharaoh (sp?). He committed and stopped looking. Then, he decided to look at Oregon. Once that happened, I believe that Hoke & Co. took away the verbal intent and did not consider him part of the class.

Anyone else have more sufficient or accurate details? My point here- I love the policy and the fact that they enforced it.

I have to agree with the practice in princple.... but I do believe this to work against us somewhat in that it may reduce the number of early commitments. Leading to some individuals heading to other programs. It would also lead to more leg work the staff's part in order keep a kids interest over an extended period of time. Im sure they remain in contact often anyway but it would seem that they would need to allocate quite a bit more time than they would if the kids provided a "solid" commitment.

So there's no chance Dymonte leaves?

Ok that's good, Urban and Brionte will stay on him till NSD next year.

What are you smoking? UM didn't come close to getting the majority of blue chippers out of Ohio and couldn't close on Brionte Dunn despite "pulling an Urban" in an attempt to recruit him. OSU's successful recruitment of more 4-star athletes than the rest of the Big10 combined speaks VOLUMES. Like them or not, Urban Meyer and Brady Hoke put the rest of the Big 10 on notice. UM's problem is that the gate to Ohio that opened so briefly, just slammed shut.

Exactly how did it slam shut? Because you kept a kid that grew up an OSU fan and was also an OSU commit? We've already got a top 3 player in Ohio for 2013, so I don't really think anything is shut.

You are the usual delusional worthless bucknut. You never got the sanctions you deserved based upon more than 10 years of CHEATING. But that is ok because Meyer will get caught cheating and lying. We caught him with his pants down with the Stonum recruitment. It was so funny when he was confronted and was SPEECHLESS.

As far as a wall around Ohio, you are most assuredly smokin crack or blowing snow dude. Michigan will get who we want and there is NOTHING ohio or the joke school down south and Meyer can do about it.

We have better relationships with many HS coaches who along with all the kids love us. Why, character, honesty, loyalty, integrity, our word is our bond and what is even more important. "What is the use of a ohio degree when their credits do not transfer." The value of a Michigan degree is one of the FINEST in the world bar none dude, and ohio is not even close, period!

Say what you want, think what you will but face reality, you always have been 2nd fiddle to Michigan and the SEC and you always will be LOSERS!

By the way, just consider how worse off your program will be after Hoke and company cause greater health issues for Meyer and he is gone in 4 to 5 years. Face reality, you bucknutss are dreaming.

It will not be as difficult as many think. We had issues with Carr just before he retired because he slacked off. We also had issues because of a spread attack with RRod. But the greatest issue to why we had difficulty was the excessive cheating by Tressel and that joke school down south.

The new Michigan staff has tremendous relationships with the Ohio HS coaches. Everyone knows who also has a high standard for character and moral values as well, it is not ohio. Everyone also knows Tressell cheated for 10 years and they know Meyer is a cheater and a liar.

That school down south will get caught before Meyer is gone in no more than 5 years. They are a rouge program who currently are figuring out how to cut kids, create medical issues with scholarship athletes and more so Meyer can implement the SEC screw the kids standards.

We will have so much fun beating the piss outta these worthless bucknuts. Note that I would not be so hateful if bucknut arrogance would face reality and realize they are so close to getting the death penalty. They cheat in basketball and football and thanks to Meyer, the B10 coaches will now let the cheating news slip to the NCAA. Why? Meyer has begged for it. He cheated at Florida and he will, guaranteed and no doubt will happen at the school down south.

This is not rocket science guys this is simple. There are two teams, ok Sparty, TWO TEAMS ONLY, in the Big Ten that pick and choose who they want: Ohio State and Michigan. That is the unfortunate truth for the rest of the conference. No disputing that.

Hoke will have limited success in Ohio. That 'limited success' will include the kids that grew up like himself that rebelled against the Buckeyes and wanted to be Michigan fans (which is the minority) and the guys that Urban doesn't want. I don't mean that as in those guys will not be good players. Lets face it, second tier players in Ohio High School football programs are better than most states first tier. But bottom line is, the best Ohio players that are Buckeye fans, and the best Ohio players that have no allegiance to OSU or Michigan, will likely choose Urban over Hoke.

Not talking smack when I say this but I am sure it will be taken negatively....but Hoke still lacks the pedigree of Urban. Few, if any, match his pedigree. The media love him and that does not hurt. His past success does not hurt. Hoke overachieved year one, but he will have to do it for a few more years before he can be labeled in the same category (or even sentence) as Meyer. Have to remember, these are 17 and 18 year old kids that have watched Urban hoist glass footballs over the last eight years while Hoke was making a name for himself still.

Sorry Sparty. Like you more than Blue. But facts are facts and you guys are still second tier in the Big Ten. Top of the second tier, but still second tier.

The reality is that Michigan has always been able to get players out of Ohio and that won't change with Urban. No, we won't get the pick of the litter like Ohio but that's part of being the instate power. Just like Michigan generally gets who they want out of Michigan with the exception of a few that either don't qualify academically(Burbridge), have ties to MSU, or legitimately choose someone else(Elmer).

Besides, Michigan is among the elite in being able to recruit top 10 classes consistently despite not being located in a talent rich state. Both teams are going to get a ton of talent so it's going to become about who develops and utilizes that talent the best. That's the way it should be.