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Early Look @ Nebraska

  • 35 points? Yikes, not much respect for the UM defense. What makes you think you can score 35 on us when our last five opponents have scored 49 total?

    This post was edited by Ducksworth on 10/22/2012 at 12:07 AM

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    I must say -- I had no idea the passing defense was that stout. Is it more man or zone? Nebraska is big on the short and intermediate routes. Man to man would be the best way to stuff our outside receivers, but creates serious mismatch issues with our tight ends.

    We're better against shorter routes, we've gotten beat deep and got lucky on some bad throws.

    It should be a disclaimer that our opponents haven't had the best passing attacks, but it's still an impressive stat. Pretty sure we're statistically the best D in the conference so far. If not first, we might be second to MSU.

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  • Ducksworth said...

    35 points? Yikes, not much respect for the UM defense. What makes you think you can score 35 on us when our last five opponents have scored 49 total?

    'Cause I had to stay homer in my pick that we would win, but I also think our defense gives up quite a few. lol

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  • Who would you guys say is closest, systematically, to Nebraska that you've faced this year? Offensively, I mean.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    'Cause I had to stay homer in my pick that we would win, but I also think our defense gives up quite a few. lol

    lol I've been there many many times. I could easily see NU winning, but I think it'd be a lower scoring game. As I said in another thread, I think this is our toughest game left.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    Who would you guys say is closest, systematically, to Nebraska that you've faced this year? Offensively, I mean.

    Eh.. no one? I guess Illinois and Purdue kinda run spreads, but they suck. So we really don't have any good examples to choose from. No real running QBs even, with Golson leaving the ND game early and Scheelhaase going down.

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  • fursty13 said...

    Don't forget that six of Denard's 9 INTs came against Bama and ND. I'm sure his numbers would be much more impressive if he had been playing against cupcake type, FCS teams.

    There was the hail-marry type pass at the end of the half against MSU that resulted in an INT. Denard hasn't thrown a legitimate pick in the three B1G games we've played so far. We have gone back to more of the spread type offense that is better suited for Denard since B1G play started. Denard will only throw it 10-15 times unless the defense can consistently stop him from running. MSU was able to do this but he almost broke the TD run on three or four occasions. Nebraska will have to do what MSU did on defense, which is improbable given that they don't have the playmakers that MSU has. Will be interesting to see Nebraska's defensive approach.

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  • Ducksworth said...

    35 points? Yikes, not much respect for the UM defense. What makes you think you can score 35 on us when our last five opponents have scored 49 total?

    Unless pick-six occurred, that would be more points than Alabama had on us (34 offensive points).

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  • What games have you guys had on ESPN/ABC network? I'll browse through ESPN3, but it'd be better if I knew what I was looking for.

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  • CMXI said...

    Rex Burkhead being banged up doesn't really help us, Ameer Abdullah has looked excellent this year.

    This is spot on, Rex is a great runner and we love him, but Ameer brings a lot to the table. Rex just has a amazing reputation in the state for the things he does off the field as well as on. He is a throw back type, and gives it everything he has every play.

    Ameer though has flash... he has amazing balance and vision, and if you don't wrap up you will give up 5-10 pretty fast. He also has a final gear that Rex doesn't have.

    The one you really wanna keep your eyes on is Braylon Heard... kid is unreal.

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  • joshwfo said...

    The one you really wanna keep your eyes on is Braylon Heard... kid is unreal

    When the stars align momentarily and we give him the ball... grumble

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  • RabidWolverine said...

    I think:

    N pass offense vs UM pass defense - Advantage: push, maybe slight UM advantage. N run offense vs UM run defense - Advantage: UM

    UM pass offense vs N pass defense - Advantage: push UM run offense vs N run defense - Advantage: UM

    I am going to disagree with this, I do think our WR core is the best in the B1G and its not close top to bottom, that may be homerish, but I believe it. I am not one to be a real "homer" though.

    N Pass O vs. UM Pass D (Based soley on YAC)
    N Rush O vs. UM Rush D UM ( our OL is horrible... when they get it right we can run on everyone)
    UM Pass O vs. N Pass D (N our back 4 is our strength...)
    UM Rush O vs. N Rush D UM (MOBILE QB= DEATH)

    If UM decides to throw the ball, they are going to go away from the best way to hurt N.

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  • Wolverines89 said...

    1. whats your honest prediction? 2. do you feel good about your defense against denard? prediction on denards stats? 3. what position is your weakness on defense? 4. what do you think nebraska's game plan on offense is going to be against UM?

    1. whats your honest prediction?
    Michigan wins this if they use DRob in the running game. Not all that much different than how Nebraska uses Taylor from time to time. If they try to get cute, this could get interesting... the story is very clear on how to beat Nebraska misdirection running QB.

    30-27 UM I think Michigan plays smart and keeps the ball out of the air, big plays kills Nebraska late

    2. do you feel good about your defense against Denard? Stats
    As I said in the previous answer, the blueprint to beat us is misdirection and the QB running to our weak side. If UM can stay steady up front, and put a hat on the LB leaving only a safety for defense Denard can have a field day. When it comes to throwing the ball, I am not impressed a whole lot with Denard, nor am I with Taylor. Neither one is a pocket passer, and both kill themselves with timely INT's.

    3. what position is your weakness on D
    Its out DL. Without question we are not a attacking DL by scheme. This allows almost every OL to get a push on us as we sit back at react rather than dictate running lanes. This also puts the backers in a terrible position when the DL gets swallowed up.

    4. what do you think nebraska's game plan on offense is going to be?
    Good defenses are going to be fast and react quickly to what they see. I see Nebraska trying play action a lot, and getting the ball into Enunwa/Bell/Turners hands early and often. Also we will try to ZR a little, but thats really only going to work if the passing game backs the LB'ers and Safetys off. Also expect us to use TE's as best we can, Reed is a mismatch TE and can cause a ton of problems for any LB'er.
    12-20 for 198 1 INT 211 rushing on 19 carries

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    When the stars align momentarily and we give him the ball... grumble

    Sad the kids average per carry with over 10 yards... and he doesn't get carries.

    Unreal speed, patient, and hands... but we don't use him. CRAZY PILLS FOR SALE IN NORTH STADIUM AT NERBASKA.

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  • joshwfo said...

    1. whats your honest prediction?Michigan wins this if they use DRob in the running game. Not all that much different than how Nebraska uses Taylor from time to time. If they try to get cute, this could get interesting... the story is very clear on how to beat Nebraska misdirection running QB.

    30-27 UM I think Michigan plays smart and keeps the ball out of the air, big plays kills Nebraska late

    2. do you feel good about your defense against Denard? Stats As I said in the previous answer, the blueprint to beat us is misdirection and the QB running to our weak side. If UM can stay steady up front, and put a hat on the LB leaving only a safety for defense Denard can have a field day. When it comes to throwing the ball, I am not impressed a whole lot with Denard, nor am I with Taylor. Neither one is a pocket passer, and both kill themselves with timely INT's.

    3. what position is your weakness on D Its out DL. Without question we are not a attacking DL by scheme. This allows almost every OL to get a push on us as we sit back at react rather than dictate running lanes. This also puts the backers in a terrible position when the DL gets swallowed up.

    4. what do you think nebraska's game plan on offense is going to be? Good defenses are going to be fast and react quickly to what they see. I see Nebraska trying play action a lot, and getting the ball into Enunwa/Bell/Turners hands early and often. Also we will try to ZR a little, but thats really only going to work if the passing game backs the LB'ers and Safetys off. Also expect us to use TE's as best we can, Reed is a mismatch TE and can cause a ton of problems for any LB'er. 12-20 for 198 1 INT 211 rushing on 19 carries

    Jake Ryan laughs at your alleged mismatch biggrin

    In all seriousness, I think Michigan matches up well against Nebraska. Improved DL play out of Quinton Washington, Will Campbell, and Ondre Pipkins the past few weeks has freed up the LBs to come in free and make plays behind the line in the run game. I know how heavily Nebraska relies on yards on the ground, so it'll be interesting to see what happens given your self-proclaimed "horrible" OL. Taylor Martinez scares me with broken plays, though, much like I'd imagine Denard scares you with scrambles lol

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  • fursty13 said...

    Jake Ryan laughs at your alleged mismatch biggrin

    In all seriousness, I think Michigan matches up well against Nebraska. Improved DL play out of Quinton Washington, Will Campbell, and Ondre Pipkins the past few weeks has freed up the LBs to come in free and make plays behind the line in the run game. I know how heavily Nebraska relies on yards on the ground, so it'll be interesting to see what happens given your self-proclaimed "horrible" OL. Taylor Martinez scares me with broken plays, though, much like I'd imagine Denard scares you with scrambles lol

    Dont let Taylor's early years scare you now... ever since he hurt his ankle in 2010 he hasn't been nearly the same.

    He is the most timid runner I have ever seen wearing a Nebraska uni.

    My "self proclaimed" horrible OL is honest and true. They are far and away the worst part of our offense. We can't figure out our own blocking scheme let alone blocking someone. We allow LB'ers and DEFENSIVE LINEMAN TO COME FREE!!!!

    Comparing Denard on scrambles and Taylor on broken plays is that Taylor might get 5-10 possibly 15 where Denard goes to the house. So not a great comparison in my opinion as Denard is far superior as a runner.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    1. I see a Nebraska win. I'm happy to accept the label as a homer. But I genuinely believe that we'll come out on top, so long as we can limit our turnovers. At home, we're a slightly more disciplined team. Granted -- That's not saying much. I'll go Nebraska, 35-31.

    2. No, I don't feel good about our defense against Denard. In the same way Martinez was our offense against NW, I suspect DR will do the same against us. The only difference being that I expect DR to do the majority of his damage on the ground, rather than through the air.

    Prediction: 13/25 -- 165 Yards -- 2TD -- 2INT, 18 Rushes -- 185 Yards -- 2TD

    3. Defensive Line. Depth was such an issue this past weekend that our noted DE, Cam Meredith, moved inside to DT for the bulk of the game. Seriously scares me how thin we were this past weekend.

    4. I can't answer this yet. I'll have to check out one of Michigan's past games. I would've loved to have seen the UM/MSU game, but I don't get BTN. Damn shame that rivalry was relegated to BTN broadcast.

    thanks. I'm going to be real honest right now. no bull. If you think NEB is going to put up 35 points, you are in for a rude awakening. UM gave up 42 points in the last 5 games. That's an average of 8 points a game. and that's with TO's on our side of the field twice vs ND. illinois never got in the redzone once against us. I don't think they got past the 30 yard line either, ohio and NW are on the bottom of the big ten in defense. you only put up 38 and 29 pts on them. If you're going to win this game, your defense is going to have to hold UM to under 30 because NEB would not put 30 on UM. Our defense is getting better every week. The new starters and young players are getting better week by week.

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  • joshwfo said...

    1. whats your honest prediction?Michigan wins this if they use DRob in the running game. Not all that much different than how Nebraska uses Taylor from time to time. If they try to get cute, this could get interesting... the story is very clear on how to beat Nebraska misdirection running QB.

    30-27 UM I think Michigan plays smart and keeps the ball out of the air, big plays kills Nebraska late

    2. do you feel good about your defense against Denard? Stats As I said in the previous answer, the blueprint to beat us is misdirection and the QB running to our weak side. If UM can stay steady up front, and put a hat on the LB leaving only a safety for defense Denard can have a field day. When it comes to throwing the ball, I am not impressed a whole lot with Denard, nor am I with Taylor. Neither one is a pocket passer, and both kill themselves with timely INT's.

    3. what position is your weakness on D Its out DL. Without question we are not a attacking DL by scheme. This allows almost every OL to get a push on us as we sit back at react rather than dictate running lanes. This also puts the backers in a terrible position when the DL gets swallowed up.

    4. what do you think nebraska's game plan on offense is going to be? Good defenses are going to be fast and react quickly to what they see. I see Nebraska trying play action a lot, and getting the ball into Enunwa/Bell/Turners hands early and often. Also we will try to ZR a little, but thats really only going to work if the passing game backs the LB'ers and Safetys off. Also expect us to use TE's as best we can, Reed is a mismatch TE and can cause a ton of problems for any LB'er. 12-20 for 198 1 INT 211 rushing on 19 carries

    thanks

    Wolverines89

  • joshwfo said...

    Dont let Taylor's early years scare you now... ever since he hurt his ankle in 2010 he hasn't been nearly the same.

    He is the most timid runner I have ever seen wearing a Nebraska uni.

    My "self proclaimed" horrible OL is honest and true. They are far and away the worst part of our offense. We can't figure out our own blocking scheme let alone blocking someone. We allow LB'ers and DEFENSIVE LINEMAN TO COME FREE!!!!

    Comparing Denard on scrambles and Taylor on broken plays is that Taylor might get 5-10 possibly 15 where Denard goes to the house. So not a great comparison in my opinion as Denard is far superior as a runner.

    Don't worry. Denard's timid as well, albeit without reason. He absolutely refuses to scramble. He's gotta be sitting back there for 10-15 seconds before he finally decides to tuck it and run. I'd say 95% of his runs come off of QB draws and options.

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  • joshwfo said...

    Dont let Taylor's early years scare you now... ever since he hurt his ankle in 2010 he hasn't been nearly the same.

    He is the most timid runner I have ever seen wearing a Nebraska uni.

    My "self proclaimed" horrible OL is honest and true. They are far and away the worst part of our offense. We can't figure out our own blocking scheme let alone blocking someone. We allow LB'ers and DEFENSIVE LINEMAN TO COME FREE!!!!

    Comparing Denard on scrambles and Taylor on broken plays is that Taylor might get 5-10 possibly 15 where Denard goes to the house. So not a great comparison in my opinion as Denard is far superior as a runner.

    The OL is really that bad?

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  • Wolverines89 said...

    The OL is really that bad?

    How many OL players do you have that line up off the line of scrimmage, not just once, but 2 and 3 times in one game?

    Its our weak link. Not that they are not capable of blocking or playing well... its stupid mistakes and drive killing penalties that have plagued Nebraska under Bo Pelini. Don't be shocked when we are hunting for OL coach following this season.

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  • joshwfo said...

    How many OL players do you have that line up off the line of scrimmage, not just once, but 2 and 3 times in one game?

    Its our weak link. Not that they are not capable of blocking or playing well... its stupid mistakes and drive killing penalties that have plagued Nebraska under Bo Pelini. Don't be shocked when we are hunting for OL coach following this season.

    Also, didn't you guys have a couple transfers right at the beginning of the year? Or am I thinking of Illinois?

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    Disclaimer: The following will come off homer-ish, but it's legitimate curiosity. At least two posters here can attest to me being a decent poster. I'm not here to flame. That said...

    I'm interested to know. With a decent separation in Marintez and Robinson's stats, I think it's fair to say Martinez is having a better year passing. When you give UM the slight edge, is that more a testament of what you think of Martinez as a passer or your defense's ability in pass defense?

    Robinson:
    83/155 -- 1,264 Yards -- 53.5% -- 9TD -- 9INT

    Martinez:
    124/185 -- 1,615 Yards -- 67% -- 15TD -- 4INT

    I think it's a testament to Martinez that it's even a push. Our pass D is ranked in the top 10 in the nation, but I know Martinez has been lights out passing the ball so I labeled push. I said maybe slight UM advantage because I'm still not 100% completely sold on T-Mart. He's been great so far though.

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  • Our defensive unit is so overlooked it's not even funny... since Air Force have we given up more than 13 points to anyone?

    thevictor_11

  • thevictor_11 said...

    Our defensive unit is so overlooked it's not even funny... since Air Force have we given up more than 13 points to anyone?

    Our defense has played lights out since the AF game ...

    UM Total Defense
    Alabama 431 yds
    AF 417 yds
    UMass 259 yds
    ND 239 yds
    Purdue 213 yds
    Illinois 134 yds
    MSU 304 yds

    UM Rushing Defense
    Alabama 232 yds
    AF 290 yds
    UMass 112 yds
    ND 94 yds
    Purdue 56 yds
    Illinois 105 yds
    MSU 112 yds

    UM Scoring Defense
    Alabama 41 pts
    AF 25 pts
    UMass 13 pts
    ND 13 pts
    Purdue 13 pts
    Illinois 0 pts
    MSU 10 pts

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 10/22/2012 at 10:19 AM

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