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ESPN being ESPN Again

  • http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8938840/bcs-programs-no-visit-policies-commits-make-little-sense

    I always feel like they try to nitpick Michigan to death

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    victorsclub ●

  • What was Meyer's policy in the 2012 cycle when Dunn was considering visiting Michigan?

    The writer is an idiot, these kids can visit as many schools as they want. Don't commit until you are sure.

    The policy worked well for USCw. And one more note, the more drama in recruiting the better for ESPN when reporting it.

    xxmgobluexx

  • The best part? Hoke doesn't give a damn what they say.

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    neoavatara

  • victorsclub said...

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8938840/bcs-programs-no-visit-policies-commits-make-little-sense

    I always feel like they try to nitpick Michigan to death

    Yeah, I saw this last night. What a load of crap. There are over 120 FBS programs and every one handles recruiting a little differently than the others. Some programs, like Michigan and Oregon and Texas, have gotten tired of prospects abusing the process by claiming to be committed to a school when they really aren't. They are simply asking that anyone who commits to their school actually mean it and take that commitment seriously.

    We waited until the very end of the process this year for Derrick Green. And we re-recruited both David Dawson and Gareon Conley after they opened up their commitments late in the process. Michigan is not forcing anyone to commit before they are ready or before they have a chance to visit other schools. And Michigan has shown flexibility in dealing with prospects who make a sincere commitment but who have second thoughts or feel the need to reopen that commitment so long as it is not done in a sneaky or underhanded way. But we're not a restaurant or a hotel that is in the business of taking and holding reservations. We are not going to allow high school kids to casually make commitments just to hold their spots at UM while they are still going through their process of making a decision.

    Take your visits. Think everything through carefully. Make a decision. Commit. Michigan isn't the right fit for everyone and prospects who don't want to take the idea of a commitment seriously are free to go somewhere else. They have more than enough other choices ... and so do we.

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 2/13/2013 at 12:02 PM

    MrWoodson

  • Doesn't matter....WE GOT MONE

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  • The best is when people try to say Hoke is a hypocrite for taking kids like R Dawson and Samuelson.

    Like it's his job to worry about the Nebraska or Illinois programs.

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    Clarkw267

  • Mitch Sherman said...

    That the Wolverines pursue players from the recruiting classes of other schools while refusing to let their commits visit elsewhere displays something of a double standard.

    I don't understand why people can't make a distinction here. Why do they always come back to this point?

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  • buttesnake said...

    I don't understand why people can't make a distinction here. Why do they always come back to this point?

    It has to be a mentality issue here. It's the only explanation I can think of. We've tried explaining it numerous times

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    victorsclub ●

  • Michigan doesn't have a "no-visit" policy, it has a stay honest and in contact with the coaches policy.

    bkp1883

  • this is getting old........ people need to leave it alone

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  • bkp1883 said...

    Michigan doesn't have a "no-visit" policy, it has a stay honest and in contact with the coaches policy.

    Best way to explain it

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  • buttesnake said...

    I don't understand why people can't make a distinction here. Why do they always come back to this point?

    I laugh everytime i see someone say that. They obviously think Hoke gets upset at the other school for trying to flip Michigan commits which is untrue.

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  • buttesnake said...

    I don't understand why people can't make a distinction here. Why do they always come back to this point?

    Not only that, but the implication is that UM should turn such kids away just to be "consistent". Really? Turning Dawson and Samuelson away and preventing them from coming to UM when that's where they prefer to go ... that's somehow helping them? It's the most twisted logic I've ever seen. Some/many programs are willing to accept "preliminary" commitments because they believe that's the best approach for them. Maybe they are right and maybe they are wrong, but it's not Brady Hoke's place to tell those other programs how to handle their recruiting. If Iowa and Nebraska are ok with their early commits continuing to go through the recruiting process, it's absolutely non of UM's business.

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 2/13/2013 at 11:45 AM

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  • MrWoodson said...

    Not only that, but the implication is that UM should turn such kids away just to be "consistent". Really? Turning Dawson and Samuelson away and preventing them from coming to UM when that's where they prefer to go ... that's somehow helping them? It's the most twisted logic I've ever seen. Some/many programs are willing to accept "preliminary" commitments because they believe that's the best approach for them. Maybe they are right and maybe they are wrong, but it's not Brady Hoke's place to tell those other programs how to handle their recruiting. If Iowa and Nebraska are ok with their early commits continuing to go through the recruiting process, it's absolutely non of UM's business.

    Exactly look at Westphal this year. Pretty sure the coaches have told him to visit others before making his pledge

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  • We like wat 2 decommits the past 2 years. Both classes filled up early on also. Man what a horrible plan. Maybe we should ask USC to give us their blueprint

    BLUEinTX

  • "Michigan Offers 4-Star SEC Commit" very next topic....this is funny espin is just trying to stir the pot. chokie doesnt like his commits to visit other schools... so what a good coach and staff will recruit until the player is signed as they should be....

    Swiftbucki

  • Swiftbucki said...

    "Michigan Offers 4-Star SEC Commit" very next topic....this is funny espin is just trying to stir the pot. chokie doesnt like his commits to visit other schools... so what a good coach and staff will recruit until the player is signed as they should be....

    swirl

    It's not worth trying to explain the policy to you . Your brain doesn't have the capability to comprehend anything that a 4 year old's brain wouldn't.

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  • Swiftbucki said...

    "Michigan Offers 4-Star SEC Commit" very next topic....this is funny espin is just trying to stir the pot. chokie doesnt like his commits to visit other schools... so what a good coach and staff will recruit until the player is signed as they should be....

    And despite all that, Urbie still will be left with #scraps at OL.

    http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Will-Meyer-be-left-with-scraps-at-OL-7966244

    This post was edited by MrWoodson on 2/15/2013 at 9:20 AM

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  • victorsclub said...

    http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/8938840/bcs-programs-no-visit-policies-commits-make-little-sense

    I always feel like they try to nitpick Michigan to death

    That feeling probably results from confirmation bias but this is a particularly deficient article. How do you type an entire piece questioning the viability of a strategy that is resulting in top ten classes without fail?

    I want to make it known that Steve Lorenz (Tremendous) is the reason my trial month became a permanent membership. Smart move 247.

    DJNiteFlite

  • MrWoodson said...

    And despite all that, Urbie still will be left with #scraps at OL.

    http://michigan.247sports.com/Board/59424/Will-Meyer-be-left-with-scraps-at-OL-7966244

    well i guess it is a good thing ufm is getting stud defensive line recruits and play makers in the offensive and defensive backfields.....is m going to start playing with 9 olinemen, a qb and rb? is m going to play defense with olinemen? safties/olinemen....we are 11-1 and ufm is 1-0 guess ill stick with our formula...... i remember hearing about dickrod recruiting small light ol guys think this is why m has taken so many over the last few years?

    Swiftbucki

  • Swiftbucki said...

    well i guess it is a good thing ufm is getting stud defensive line recruits and play makers in the offensive and defensive backfields.....is m going to start playing with 9 olinemen, a qb and rb? is m going to play defense with olinemen? safties/olinemen....we are 11-1 and ufm is 1-0 guess ill stick with our formula...... i remember hearing about dickrod recruiting small light ol guys think this is why m has taken so many over the last few years?

    You truly are painfully dumb.

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  • TAMUWolverine said...

    You truly are painfully dumb.

    It's like watching a bird run into a window or glass door. Sad, and hard to watch, but at the same time slightly amusing.

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    Clarkw267

  • I can only speak for the UM parts, but wow, that was a terribly written and researched article. Did he even know anything about Dawson's recruitment? Dawson wanted to take visits, so he decommited. UM moved on to the point Wilcher was saying 'that ship has sailed.' Then Dawson calls up the staff after taking a visit and they apparently talk through stuff. The staff re-offers and then re-recruits him. Oh, and Dawson's dad died previous to the whole saga. Does that not count as a mitigating circumstance, as opposed to the Pharoah Brown thing where both sides just moved on? And Conley for that matter. Sure we continues to recruit him; but we also offered a bunch of new prospects while he was looking at OSU. And why is it the schools that are being hypocritical? Doesn't some of the responsibility of today's recruiting enviornment rest on recruits' aditudes? And the 'no-visit' policy at pretty much every school is actually a 'you shop around, we'll shop around' policy. Whether a certain school cuts all ties and re-recruits someone is based on situation. Oh, and Bama also has this policy. Has this hurt them? This whole article is just the next in a recent line of how far sports journalism has fallen. Let's just word vomit under a major news network's mast head without doing an ounce of actual research and call it 'journalism'. This is how you end up with an SI cover story about a dead girlfriend who doesn't actually exist.

    MercuryHayes

  • Swiftbucki said...
    we are 11-1 and ufm is 1-0 guess ill stick with our formula

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    YuanT

  • YuanT said...

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    sorry my bad 10-2.... think i'll still take it

    Swiftbucki

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