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Rabid said...
Reports are that he has been absolutely killing it this offseason, and Hoke specifically mentioned him in his press conference today.
In your opinion, how much of an impact will he have next year?
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inuyesta said...
I've been high on him for a good while...he's a kid that could potentially have a massive impact imo. We knew all about his speed coming out of high school, and now he's adding a bunch of size and strength? I'd be surprised if he didn't get a fair share of touches this year, and I wouldn't be surprised if he really pushed Fitz and Green for that starting spot.
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MercuryHayes said...
I'm skeptical. RB is such an instinctual position that if he couldn't contribute last year, even with all our woes, I don't think he'll be that impactful this year. That is unless he's been nursing some injuries we don't know about last year. He came in with decent size as well, so it's not an adding weight issue either.
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MercuryHayes said...
His red-shirting is kind of the point. We had almost no running game outside of Denard's usual magic, so there was plenty of opportunity to contribute. but instead he was redshirted. He didn't need weight (he was listed at 209) and coming off track season (not out of shape). There's no reason he shouldn't have contributed last season unless he was 1) injured like Fitz and that's why he was redshirted, or 2) just is struggling with vision, playbook, fumbles, etc. If its the second, things like that don't tend to vastly improve with age as a RB like they do for most every other position. It's a position that relys on instincts and intangibles so much. And instead of him on the field, we got another year of Vincent Smith running isos. Sure, every now and then there's a Chris Perry that doesn't put it all together till he's an upperclassmen. But for everyone of those, there's also much more Kevin Grady's or Mike Cox's. I think he's getting some hype because there's really no one else at this point. Rawls and Hayes haven't shown anything either, and Fitz is injured.
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Luger said...
Kalis redshirted too, you don't think he could have contributed immediately? And dont give me the OL typically redshirt, he certainly could have gotten time over barnum, especially if you look at the freshman across the country that did get time like the kidd at stanford or mizzou. There are a number of factors that play into a redshirt, it's not always talent or football related.
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Luger said...
Kalis redshirted too, you don't think he could have contributed immediately? And dont give me the OL typically redshirt, he certainly could have gotten time over barnum, especially if you look at the freshman across the country that did get time like the kidd at stanford or mizzou. There are a number of factors that play into a redshirt, it's not always talent or football related.
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MercuryHayes said...
His red-shirting is kind of the point. We had almost no running game outside of Denard's usual magic, so there was plenty of opportunity to contribute. but instead he was redshirted. He didn't need weight (he was listed at 209) and coming off track season (not out of shape). There's no reason he shouldn't have contributed last season unless he was 1) injured like Fitz and that's why he was redshirted, or 2) just is struggling with vision, playbook, fumbles, etc. If its the second, things like that don't tend to vastly improve with age as a RB like they do for most every other position. It's a position that relys on instincts and intangibles so much. And instead of him on the field, we got another year of Vincent Smith running isos. Sure, every now and then there's a Chris Perry that doesn't put it all together till he's an upperclassmen. But for everyone of those, there's also much more Kevin Grady's or Mike Cox's. I think he's getting some hype because there's really no one else at this point. Rawls and Hayes haven't shown anything either, and Fitz is injured. Again, just skeptical. I certainly hope he's the real deal.
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MercuryHayes said...
Apples and oranges. The mechanics of blocking (especially effective pass blocking), learning correct pulling steps, learning line audibles and blitz pick-ups at a college level is extremely different than an RB learning their blocking assignments or picking the correct running lane. While some OL don't red-shirt, in most cases it's still a good idea.
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Due51 said...
Personally, I think you're reaching. He red shirted because with our interior 3 linemen, nobody would have been effective, so why burn a redshirt.
I can tell you Drake busts his ass. He was one a few kids who stuck around during spring break and worked out. He's a very nice kid with his head screwed on correctly and has a competitive spirit. He's not conceding anything to Green or Smith, I can promise you that.
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Luger said...
And pass blocking for an RB isn't different at a college level compared to HS? There is so much for a kid to learn in playing RB, it's not just picking a hole and running. I'm not annointing drake by any means, I'm just saying you shouldn't read too much into that redshirt because there are so many factors that have to be accounted for.
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Due51 said...
Personally, I think you're reaching. He red shirted because with our interior 3 linemen, nobody would have been effective, so why burn a redshirt.
I can tell you Drake busts his ass. He was one a few kids who stuck around during spring break and worked out. He's a very nice kid with his head screwed on correctly and has a competitive spirit. He's not conceding anything to Green or Smith, I can promise you that.
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