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  • OSUmidwest said...

    Only thing you proved me was you had some really good teams in the 40's. You started out 20-0 vs OSU in the early 1900's, when football wasnt a major sport at OSU. Since then you have a grand total of 28 wins. So hey go ahead brag about what you did prior to the war.. You needed a Ohio coach in Bo, and Ohio player in Desmond, an Ohio player in Woodson. Take away our state and you are Purdue.

    Based on our record against the Buckeyes, we had some pretty good teams in the 80s and 90s too.

    Edit: Also, I know math is not the Nuts' strong suit, but we have more than 48 wins against OSU.

    This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by MrWoodson on 7/27/2012 at 4:35 PM

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  • Joester16 said...

    Alright, let's get back on topic... What are everyone's opinions on where Derrick may be leaning?

    I like Michgan's chances.

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  • OSUmidwest said...

    Only thing you proved me was you had some really good teams in the 40's. You started out 20-0 vs OSU in the early 1900's, when football wasnt a major sport at OSU. Since then you have a grand total of 28 wins. So hey go ahead brag about what you did prior to the war.. You needed a Ohio coach in Bo, and Ohio player in Desmond, an Ohio player in Woodson. Take away our state and you are Purdue.

    Well... we have an Ohio coach and are beating OSU for recruits in the state of Ohio RIGHT NOW. So by your own logic this is a recipe for UM success. Thanks for making the argument for us.

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  • That is the dumbest argument for a schools successes, who gives a shit, there's no rule against oos kids. Guess what without a Michigan player you wouldn't have a bcs championship

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  • OSUmidwest said...

    Only thing you proved me was you had some really good teams in the 40's. You started out 20-0 vs OSU in the early 1900's, when football wasnt a major sport at OSU. Since then you have a grand total of 28 wins. So hey go ahead brag about what you did prior to the war.. You needed a Ohio coach in Bo, and Ohio player in Desmond, an Ohio player in Woodson. Take away our state and you are Purdue.

    Take away recruits from Ohio and you're worse than Purdue. Hell, you should be embarrassed about the fact that we took two Heisman winners out of your state. You should be humiliated that we run through your fences and steal your recruits. Honestly, can you imagine what could be if you could actually keep your recruits at home?

    Case in point: in 2013, you have exactly 0 LB commits. Our entire class of LBs for 2013 is made up of Ohio kids who committed to us even though they hold OSU offers. That's downright embarrassing for you.

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  • OSUmidwest said...

    How many of those 11 came after World War II? One and it was shared. And you haven't sniffed a conference championship since 2004. No one gives a crap what you did when your grand daddy was in high school.

    This...

    - 40-34
    - tats & probation
    - LTT burning the ohio letter

    What ?...

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  • CMXI said...

    Take away recruits from Ohio and you're worse than Purdue. Hell, you should be embarrassed about the fact that we took two Heisman winners out of your state. You should be humiliated that we run through your fences and steal your recruits. Honestly, can you imagine what could be if you could actually keep your recruits at home?

    Case in point: in 2013, you have exactly 0 LB commits. Our entire class of LBs for 2013 is made up of Ohio kids who committed to us even though they hold OSU offers. That's downright embarrassing for you.

    To be fair the LBs that you got out of Ohio this year really weren't competitive situations. I know they have OSU offers now, but McCray didn't get offered until after he was a UM commit. I think its fair to say that Urban thought Gedeon and McCray would be around to be plan b-c type of guys and thought wrong. You have gotten some solid guys out of our state this year, for sure, but most of them weren't high priorities or priorities at all for our staff. Your gain? Time will tell. We took 5 lbs last year and have outstanding depth there already. Personally I think the only big loss for OSU is Thomas, but you can't fault Urban for that one, that was done before he got here. I would be willing to bet Urb gets who he wants out of Ohio, but there are always going to be a ton of solid to good players who go elsewhere simply because Ohio produces so many good prospects.

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  • OSUmidwest said...

    Only thing you proved me was you had some really good teams in the 40's. You started out 20-0 vs OSU in the early 1900's, when football wasnt a major sport at OSU. Since then you have a grand total of 28 wins. So hey go ahead brag about what you did prior to the war.. You needed a Ohio coach in Bo, and Ohio player in Desmond, an Ohio player in Woodson. Take away our state and you are Purdue.

    OSU started making plans for a new stadium as early as 1913 because the old stadium could not hold the crowds. The shoe was built in the early 20's. Nice try on "wasn't a major sport" History must not be too big down there either.

    This post was edited by pappy121 on 7/27/2012 at 6:13 PM

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  • eatonbux said...

    To be fair the LBs that you got out of Ohio this year really weren't competitive situations. I know they have OSU offers now, but McCray didn't get offered until after he was a UM commit. I think its fair to say that Urban thought Gedeon and McCray would be around to be plan b-c type of guys and thought wrong. You have gotten some solid guys out of our state this year, for sure, but most of them weren't high priorities or priorities at all for our staff. Your gain? Time will tell. We took 5 lbs last year and have outstanding depth there already. Personally I think the only big loss for OSU is Thomas, but you can't fault Urban for that one, that was done before he got here. I would be willing to bet Urb gets who he wants out of Ohio, but there are always going to be a ton of solid to good players who go elsewhere simply because Ohio produces so many good prospects.

    So misinformed. Meyer practically begged Gedeon to reconsider. He was right at the top of both UM and OSU LB board. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he ended up being the most successful player from Ohio in the 13 class.

    He's criminally underrated.

    So I guess Urb doesn't want Ferns next season? Better start thinking up excuses for that impending loss.

    Just so we are keeping score... 2012 #1 Kalis, 2013 #2 Thomas, 2014 #2 Ferns.

    Pillaging Ohio. All the work Tress put in building up that fence has been obliterated. I'd love to hear his thoughts on Urb's national recruiting strategy.

    Oh and a BTW.. OSU doesn't get **** from the state of Michigan. Now that's a fence.

    This post was edited by Norbit on 7/27/2012 at 6:50 PM

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  • Norbit said...

    So misinformed. Meyer practically begged Gedeon to reconsider. He was right at the top of both UM and OSU LB board. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he ended up being the most successful player from Ohio in the 13 class.

    He's criminally underrated.

    So I guess Urb doesn't want Ferns next season? Better start thinking up excuses for that impending loss.

    Just so we are keeping score... 2012 #1 Kalis, 2013 #2 Thomas, 2014 #2 Ferns.

    Pillaging Ohio. All the work Tress put in building up that fence has been obliterated. I'd love to hear his thoughts on Urb's national recruiting strategy.

    Oh and a BTW.. OSU doesn't get **** from the state of Michigan. Now that's a fence.

    BAM!

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  • Norbit said...

    So misinformed. Meyer practically begged Gedeon to reconsider. He was right at the top of both UM and OSU LB board. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if he ended up being the most successful player from Ohio in the 13 class.

    He's criminally underrated.

    So I guess Urb doesn't want Ferns next season? Better start thinking up excuses for that impending loss.

    Just so we are keeping score... 2012 #1 Kalis, 2013 #2 Thomas, 2014 #2 Ferns.

    Pillaging Ohio. All the work Tress put in building up that fence has been obliterated. I'd love to hear his thoughts on Urb's national recruiting strategy.

    Oh and a BTW.. OSU doesn't get **** from the state of Michigan. Now that's a fence.

    A few things, Maybe, I may be misinformed about Urban begging Gedeon to come to OSU, I'm sure that's pretty accurate. Speaking of misinformed, are your rankings for the players you listed arbitrary? I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure A Wash was the top player in Ohio last year. Finally, on Ferns, I didn't realize he had commited to you guys, you have a link to that? Also did 247 already do an update for the 2014 class? No wonder you think you are pillaging Ohio, most of the players you've gotten from there you've bumped up a handful of spots. Finally, about your fence, I don't think they get a lot of competition from OSU up there, but I bet you would have like to have Gholston when he put up 3 sacks against Jake Long. Probably would be nice if you had Hankins this year, no? If OSU offered every kid in Michigan like UM does in Ohio, I would agree with you, but I'm not sure you need the fence, OSU doesn't come to your state very often.
    I will agree that Gedeon is going to be a real solid player and that you guys are doing a good job recruiting Ohio, I just dont see it as you do that you are going head to head with us in our own state and dominating. I guess time will tell. You trust your staff and I trust ours. It should be fun finding out though.

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  • eatonbux said...
    I don't think they get a lot of competition from OSU up there, but I bet you would have like to have Gholston when he put up 3 sacks against Jake Long.

    Gholston had three sacks in the game, one against Long. It was the only sack Long allowed all year. Now usually I wouldn't bring it up because Michigan lost that game but you need to be reminded that you're a know-it-all that knows very little.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by uguumaster on 7/27/2012 at 8:59 PM

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  • uguumaster said...

    Gholston had three sacks in the game, one against Long. It was the only sack Long allowed all year. Now usually I wouldn't bring it up because Michigan lost that game but you need to be reminded that you're a know-it-all that knows very little.

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  • Rich Rod would be very proud of the direction your offensive recruiting has taken.

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  • eatonbux said...

    A few things, Maybe, I may be misinformed about Urban begging Gedeon to come to OSU, I'm sure that's pretty accurate. Speaking of misinformed, are your rankings for the players you listed arbitrary? I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure A Wash was the top player in Ohio last year. Finally, on Ferns, I didn't realize he had commited to you guys, you have a link to that? Also did 247 already do an update for the 2014 class? No wonder you think you are pillaging Ohio, most of the players you've gotten from there you've bumped up a handful of spots. Finally, about your fence, I don't think they get a lot of competition from OSU up there, but I bet you would have like to have Gholston when he put up 3 sacks against Jake Long. Probably would be nice if you had Hankins this year, no? If OSU offered every kid in Michigan like UM does in Ohio, I would agree with you, but I'm not sure you need the fence, OSU doesn't come to your state very often. I will agree that Gedeon is going to be a real solid player and that you guys are doing a good job recruiting Ohio, I just dont see it as you do that you are going head to head with us in our own state and dominating. I guess time will tell. You trust your staff and I trust ours. It should be fun finding out though.

    Gholston and Hankins are irrelevant to this discussion since that was under a different coaching staff. Meyer is also making a concerted effort to make head way into Michigan. Get up to speed.

    Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit on Ferns, but all reports I've read say it is between UM and PSU, factor in the PSU mess and the fact he's in AA for the BBQ and you do the math.

    Bumped up a handful of spots? At best you could drop Kalis #2 and Thomas #3... I would contend they're both #1 but that's semantics. Regardless it will be 3 years running UM has taken some of the best Ohio has to offer. That just didn't happen under Tress. EVER!

    Never heard me say anything about dominating Ohio recruiting. That would be delusional to ever think UM can pull that off. But UM is matching OSU blow for blow in Ohio recruiting. I'm not going to do a run down of the top 20 Ohio recruits the last two years but the proof is there for anyone who cares to look. Maybe you should?

    Michigan isn't my state. Born and raised in Ohio. Cheer for all Ohio teams other then OSU. Go figure.

    Lemme guess... you are in your early to mid twenties? The 90's never happened and the rivalry is defined by Tress. 9-1 is just standard operating procedure. Hate to break it to you but that was an anomaly. Savor the flavor because it was a once in a lifetime run. No more gimme W's.

    This post was edited by Norbit on 7/27/2012 at 9:08 PM

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  • uguumaster said...

    Gholston had three sacks in the game, one against Long. It was the only sack Long allowed all year. Now usually I wouldn't bring it up because Michigan lost that game but you need to be reminded that you're a know-it-all that knows very little.

    My bad if I am mistaken, my point was more along the lines of, OSU has gotten some players out of Michigan, they just don't go there often, so its not like there is some fence around Michigan keeping OSU out. I was under the impression that this board enjoyed good football conversation and was even tolerant of opposing viewpoints. I didn't think I said anything offensive, but I'm sorry if somehow I did.

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  • eatonbux said...

    My bad if I am mistaken, my point was more along the lines of, OSU has gotten some players out of Michigan, they just don't go there often, so its not like there is some fence around Michigan keeping OSU out. I was under the impression that this board enjoyed good football conversation and was even tolerant of opposing viewpoints. I didn't think I said anything offensive, but I'm sorry if somehow I did.

    No worries, man. We are just busting your balls a little. We tend to take this whole rivalry thing seriously, lol.

    Norbit ●

  • Norbit said...

    Gholston and Hankins are irrelevant to this discussion since that was under a different coaching staff. Meyer is also making a concerted effort to make head way into Michigan. Get up to speed.

    Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit on Ferns, but all reports I've read say it is between UM and PSU, factor in the PSU mess and the fact he's in AA for the BBQ and you do the math.

    Bumped up a handful of spots? At best you could drop Kalis #2 and Thomas #3... I would contend they're both #1 but that's semantics. Regardless it will be 3 years running UM has taken some of the best Ohio has to offer. That just didn't happen under Tress. EVER!

    Never heard me say anything about dominating Ohio recruiting. That would be delusional to ever think UM can pull that off. But UM is matching OSU blow for blow in Ohio recruiting. I'm not going to do a run down of the top 20 Ohio recruits the last two years but the proof is there for anyone who cares to look. Maybe you should?

    Michigan isn't my state. Born and raised in Ohio. Cheer for all Ohio teams other then OSU. Go figure.

    Lemme guess... you are in your early to mid twenties? The 90's never happened and the rivalry is defined by Tress. 9-1 is just standard operating procedure. Hate to break it to you but that was an anomaly. Savor the flavor because it was a once in a lifetime run. No more gimme W's.

    Sure he's throwing some offers out in Michigan, there are some good players up there, I just don't think its going to be a focal point of his recruiting though.

    As far as Ferns goes currently from what I know and I'm no insider, but yeah for now its UM/PSU, but he's not even a junior in high school yet, I wouldn't start counting the kid as a lock. A lot can happen, not that it'll necessarily happen for OSU, but the kid has a lot of recruiting to take in.

    I'm going to guess your job doesn't include profiling. I'm 30 and unfortunately lived through the entire 90's, first clear memory being the Wheatley 28-0 game. Yeah, remember having a clearly better team for most of the decade, save for 97 and not being to win the game that mattered. Sucked. Just as I'm sure the Tressel decade did for you, I would probably say the Cooper years were worse for us because he should have had at least 1 title in the 90's and came away with a goose egg. I'm not sure what led you to believe that I think the Tressel era is status quo, but you couldnt have been more wrong. From the time OSU got their first win in the series, its pretty much even and I anticipate it will stay that way with the coaches both schools have in place.

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  • Norbit said...

    No worries, man. We are just busting your balls a little. We tend to take this whole rivalry thing seriously, lol.

    Lol, who would have thought.

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  • This thread either needs a new name or should be shut down. It has become just a "hooray for our side".

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  • Brady 6 said...

    This...

    - 40-34 - tats & probation - LTT burning the ohio letter

    What ?...

    Love that pawn stars pic. Awesome

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  • CMXI said...

    Take away recruits from Ohio and you're worse than Purdue. Hell, you should be embarrassed about the fact that we took two Heisman winners out of your state. You should be humiliated that we run through your fences and steal your recruits. Honestly, can you imagine what could be if you could actually keep your recruits at home?

    Case in point: in 2013, you have exactly 0 LB commits. Our entire class of LBs for 2013 is made up of Ohio kids who committed to us even though they hold OSU offers. That's downright embarrassing for you.

    Agreed, they throw that crap about us bein nothin without ohio talent because they hate us takin so many good players from their state. What program takes only players from their own state? they brag about the oscar meyer weiner recruiting nationaly but then talk sh*t to us about takin anyone outside of Michigan? more bucknut bluster cuz they can't admit the fact that our coach came out of nowhere to outrecruit the great and powerful urbs and take away recruits that he wanted right from there own backyard.

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  • OSUmidwest said...

    Only thing you proved me was you had some really good teams in the 40's. You started out 20-0 vs OSU in the early 1900's, when football wasnt a major sport at OSU. Since then you have a grand total of 28 wins. So hey go ahead brag about what you did prior to the war.. You needed a Ohio coach in Bo, and Ohio player in Desmond, an Ohio player in Woodson. Take away our state and you are Purdue.

    First I must ask is "What are you smokin?" It must be some really good shit!

    Secondly, most who want an education do NOT attend OSU, and yes that includes
    football players who wish to be a success. A choice between ohio (not OU (with respect))
    and U-M (A World Class University), well, it is a no brainer!

    Only at ohio do athletes take classes that will not transfer and those classes count
    towards their degree. WOW!

    Maize N Blue

  • Amazinglyblue78 said...

    Love that pawn stars pic. Awesome

    biggrin +1, Ohio comments brings out the best in me.....

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