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Dennis Norfleet

  • Jack Daniels said...

    If threat means "get in the end zone", then I'll still take Toussaint. He had plenty of touchdowns last year.

    Who is a bigger threat, Desean Jackson or Rob Gronkowski?

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    I swear you guys have no clue what the hell threat means.

    Maybe you should look in the mirror.

    Norfleet has the potential to be a huge threat. Toussaint is a huge threat and has room for growth.

    Being a great athlete doesn't automatically mean you are a threat, likewise, just because you aren't an elite athlete doesn't mean you aren't a threat.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Who is a bigger threat, Desean Jackson or Rob Gronkowski?

    They both are, but Gronkowski had 17 TD's last year (something like that). I'll take more TD's over yards per catch any day. By the way, that comparison doesn't really work, because Norfleet won't play much this year if at all, and you're trying to use two NFL players as comparison for Toussaint and Norfleet.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Who is a bigger threat, Desean Jackson or Rob Gronkowski?

    Who's the bigger threat, Sam McGuffie or Mike Hart?

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  • Jack Daniels said...

    They both are, but Gronkowski had 17 TD's last year (something like that). I'll take more TD's over yards per catch any day. By the way, that comparison doesn't really work, because Norfleet won't play much this year if at all, and you're trying to use two NFL players as comparison for Toussaint and Norfleet.

    I'm trying to prove just because a person has more stats than the other, doesn't mean they are more of a threat on the field. It's really not that difficult to understand, you put the ball in Norfleet/Jackson's hands in the open field they are much more of a threat to score than Gronk/Fitz.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Who is a bigger threat, Desean Jackson or Rob Gronkowski?

    Horrible analogy as both of those guys are starters. Norfleet has never played a down in college.

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  • Ducksworth said...

    Who's the bigger threat, Sam McGuffie or Mike Hart?

    McGuffie. His speed is crazy, he could easily score on any play, while Hart's lack of speed prevents him from making long runs, or catches out of the backfield without getting caught from behind.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    McGuffie. His speed is crazy, he could easily score on any play, while Hart's lack of speed prevents him from making long runs, or catches out of the backfield without getting caught from behind.

    Wait.... seriously...?

    Did you see either or both of them play for Michigan?

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    McGuffie. His speed is crazy, he could easily score on any play, while Hart's lack of speed prevents him from making long runs, or catches out of the backfield without getting caught from behind.

    And McGuffie's lack of power, durability, tackle breaking ability, inside running prevents him from getting out into the open field and using his speed.

    Was Troy Williamson a bigger threat than Marvin Harrison? After all, Williamson is fast.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    I'm trying to prove just because a person has more stats than the other, doesn't mean they are more of a threat on the field. It's really not that difficult to understand, you put the ball in Norfleet/Jackson's hands in the open field they are much more of a threat to score than Gronk/Fitz.

    Again, you dont know for sure if Norfleet is that type of player. Just because his film was good does not mean he will be "the biggest threat outside of Denard the minute he steps on campus". That is an absurd assumption. Toussaint is a starter, and coming off a great season. If you watched the games, you would know he is one of the biggest breakaway threats we've had at RB in a while.

    Jack Daniels

  • Ducksworth said...

    Wait.... seriously...?

    Did you see either or both of them play for Michigan?

    Doesn't change the fact that McGuffie has the physical tools to score on any play, while Hart isn't going to knock off an 80 year run.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Doesn't change the fact that McGuffie has the physical tools to score on any play, while Hart isn't going to knock off an 80 year run.

    If he had the physical tools at Michigan, then why didn't he do it? It's not that simple to just look at a fast guy and say, "Oh, he is going to run for a lot of long touchdowns like in Madden!!". McGuffie was fast, but he was knocked around. He couldn't use his speed.

    Jack Daniels

  • Jack Daniels said...

    If he had the physical tools at Michigan, then why didn't he do it? It's not that simple to just look at a fast guy and say, "Oh, he is going to run for a lot of long touchdowns like in Madden!!". McGuffie was fast, but he was knocked around. He couldn't use his speed.

    Threat means just that, a threat to do something. It doesn't mean he will, it means he can.

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  • Norfleet is most likely going to be on the bench all year. Get that in your head. He can't be a threat if he doesn't get any playing time.

    Jack Daniels

  • I just started this thread to show what number Norfleet will be wearing and to show how grateful he is for this opportunity to play at Michigan. Didn't mean for it to turn into this.

    I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think Maize&Blue21 is just referring to their style of play, saying Norfleet comes in with more big play capabilities than the other guys on the roster. He's not saying Norfleet is - or will be - better than anyone else, or that it'll happen right away. We all know he hasn't proven anything at the college level, and may not even play much in 2012. I think he was just focusing on that extra dimension that Norfleet brings to the roster that will be a welcome change of pace from what's already in Ann Arbor.

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  • Todd Worly said...

    I just started this thread to show what number Norfleet will be wearing and to show how grateful he is for this opportunity to play at Michigan. Didn't mean for it to turn into this.

    I don't want to put words in anyone's mouth, but I think Maize&Blue21 is just referring to their style of play, saying Norfleet comes in with more big play capabilities than the other guys on the roster. He's not saying Norfleet is - or will be - better than anyone else, or that it'll happen right away. We all know he hasn't proven anything at the college level, and may not even play much in 2012. I think he was just focusing on that extra dimension that Norfleet brings to the roster that will be a welcome change of pace from what's already in Ann Arbor.

    THANK YOU. This is exactly what I've been trying to say, just nobody has understood it.

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Threat means just that, a threat to do something. It doesn't mean he will, it means he can.

    And Mike Hart can bust up for 80 yard TD, just because he doesn't all the time, doesn't mean he can't. /your logic

    Was Troy Williamson a bigger threat than Marvin Harrison?

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    Doesn't change the fact that McGuffie has the physical tools to score on any play, while Hart isn't going to knock off an 80 year run.

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    Mike Hart - "The Run"

    Michigan TB Mike Hart, and his "infamous" run in HS.

    http://www.youtube.com/v/umDef_92fGc
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  • maize&blue21 said...

    THANK YOU. This is exactly what I've been trying to say, just nobody has understood it.

    You did a pretty bad job of conveying your point TBH.

    Yeah, Norfleet brings another dimension that we don't have from the RB position, but that doesn't mean he is or will be the biggest threat at the RB position.

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  • Ducksworth said...

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    Detroit King Football #21 Dennis Norfleet Senior Highlights

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  • Ducksworth said...

    Not a threat bro.

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  • Public school competition.....ah, very close to what he'll see in the B1G

    Jack Daniels

  • I am about to do a blind player comparison using two NFL players, both play the same position and have been in the league for about the same amount of time (1 guy has been in the league 1 year longer).

    Player A: 7,625 yards rushing 4.6 avg 80 long 43 TD; 2,397 yards receiving 8.4 avg 48 long 9 TD
    Player B: 3,176 yards rushing 4.3 avg 76 long 23 TD; 2,438 yards receiving 7.2 avg 74 long 13 TD

    Who is the bigger threat?

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  • um_king said...

    I am about to do a blind player comparison using two NFL players, both play the same position and have been in the league for about the same amount of time (1 guy has been in the league 1 year longer).

    Player A: 7,625 yards rushing 4.6 avg 80 long 43 TD; 2,397 yards receiving 8.4 avg 48 long 9 TD Player B: 3,176 yards rushing 4.3 avg 76 long 23 TD; 2,438 yards receiving 7.2 avg 74 long 13 TD

    Who is the bigger threat?

    You don't quite understand what a threat means. But, hey, that's alright, it's not my problem. Last time I'll say it, he can get to the endzone on any play, does it mean he will? No, but he surely can.

    Edit: Last post, I'll talk to you guys when football season rolls around.

    This post was edited by MaizeandBlue21 on 6/22/2012 at 9:15 PM

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  • maize&blue21 said...

    I swear you guys have no clue what the hell threat means.

    Go watch some replays of Toussaint last year. He is a threat everytime he touches the ball. His lateral movement and jab step are things of beauty. Threat to take it to the house everytime he touches the ball.

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