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DG+DR > BM

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6 months ago

a2brutus said...
true, but what about the miller/hyde combo?
everyone is talking about miller, but carlos hyde is a big fast back that is tough to bring down...
bm/ch > dr/dg

No way no how! DR+DG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM+CH
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a2brutus said...
true, but what about the miller/hyde combo?
everyone is talking about miller, but carlos hyde is a big fast back that is tough to bring down...
bm/ch > dr/dg
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Awink2 said...
Denard and Braxton are pretty similar, thus cancel each other out....1a and 1b....but the fact that you couple Gardner with Robinson abilities sways the pendulum in our favor.

I would agree with this if it was just one player that had both attributes, but since only one of them can take the snap, it's not as big of threat. Now if DRob could pass like DGard, then yes, you'd have one HELL of a QB there. But It's a bit different when DRob is in, we defend run, when DGard is in, we look a bit more to cover the pass and blitz the heck out of him. I'm not knocking them, but there's only one ball in the game, so whoever is taking the snap dictated the defense....same as if Braxton goes out, Guiton comes in, now you are defending the short pass more than the QB run, and I'd imagine you'd blitz the hell out of him as well...
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a2brutus said...
well, the miller/hyde combo has beat psu, whisky, and nebraska (2 of those away)...
what is the best win um has this yr (with or without the dr/dg combo)????
i threw out losses and cupcakes, just give me the um signature win???

The only one of those that can even remotely be considered a signature win is Nebraska. Wisky and PSU are not signature wins this year.
The DR/DG combo has not been together long so its a moot point to try to compare wins.
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a2brutus said...
you never answered my question,
who has um beat that was better then psu, whisky and neb.??????
nw?
iowa?
minn?

First off i don't need to answer your question because it has nothing to do with my original post. DG+DR>>>>>>>>>>BM+CH. Your question means nothing for this.
Now to answer your question. Nobody but that doesn't make PSU or Wisky signature wins.
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a2brutus said...
well, it has everything to do with the question....
if bm/ch beat 3 good teams (2 of which will be in indy) and dr/dg lit up iowa, nw and minny, cant you conclude the osu pair did better against better competition?

No it doesn't because DR/DG have only played the 2 QB system/DR being moved all around thing 1 game this year.
You can conclude anything you want. I'm still taking DG and DR over those 2 any day of the week.
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BestoftheBig said...
I would agree with this if it was just one player that had both attributes, but since only one of them can take the snap, it's not as big of threat. Now if DRob could pass like DGard, then yes, you'd have one HELL of a QB there. But It's a bit different when DRob is in, we defend run, when DGard is in, we look a bit more to cover the pass and blitz the heck out of him. I'm not knocking them, but there's only one ball in the game, so whoever is taking the snap dictated the defense....same as if Braxton goes out, Guiton comes in, now you are defending the short pass more than the QB run, and I'd imagine you'd blitz the hell out of him as well...

Sounds like Vrabel and Fickel will have it all figured out
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a2brutus said...
true, but what about the miller/hyde combo?
everyone is talking about miller, but carlos hyde is a big fast back that is tough to bring down...
bm/ch > dr/dg

Why stop there.....Ohio DL > UM OL, or Ohio WR > UM secondary, or Ohio LB > Denard/Rawls/Smith. This thread was primary for the QB position. You have braxton as a dual threat QB, or you have the combination of DG and DR which is a quadruple threat. Quad > Double
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Awink2 said...
Sounds like Vrabel and Fickel will have it all figured out

Oh ye of little faith....keep thinking you'll see a weak defense...that's what PSU and Wisky fans thought as well....
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a2brutus said...
well, the miller/hyde combo has beat psu, whisky, and nebraska (2 of those away)...
what is the best win um has this yr (with or without the dr/dg combo)????
i threw out losses and cupcakes, just give me the um signature win???

I don't know why they act like the DR/DG combo is new....they have both been in every game but one together...DRob was at QB and DGard was at WR....So basically what they are saying is they are a much better team now that their 4 year, "Best in UM history" QB is NOT playing QB anymore.....seems kind of strange that they just can't admit that is what they are saying....
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I say DRob/DGard= Not scary...
Would be scary if DRob could throw the ball, that would be tough to defend.
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I don't know why they act like the DR/DG combo is new....they have both been in every game but one together...DRob was at QB and DGard was at WR....So basically what they are saying is they are a much better team now that their 4 year, "Best in UM history" QB is NOT playing QB anymore.....seems kind of strange that they just can't admit that is what they are saying....

no not really...the offense is more dynamic, and allows DR to go back to QB even....there are many more options, formations, and possibilities with the personnel now, which makes it harder for the defense
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a2brutus said...
because the dg/dr combo is only a true combo threat if they are on the field at the same time (like when bm/hyde line up in the backfield together)...

Exactly...thats kinda the point to have them on the field concurrently
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RoboBuckeye said...
I say DRob/DGard= Not scary...
Would be scary if DRob could throw the ball, that would be tough to defend.

you will get what you ask for
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WillyWolverine said...
No way no how! DR+DG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM+CH

DR and Dg have a combined 28 passing and rushing tds. Braxton Miller on his own has 27 tds. And if you add Hydes TDs and combine everyones total yards OSU Duo comes out on top. I think Denard is the better runner for sure with more explosiveness and top end speed but overall I take Braxton second and DG last. Passing I like BM and DG over DR anyday. All 3 have their own skill set so comparing them is pretty difficult. Saturday will be exciting. I heard a rumor denard may be lined up at rb for you guys this week? Any truth to that? I wish both teams no injuries and hope that whatever bowl game you guys go to you represent the big10 well.
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Awink2 said...
you will get what you ask for

Well i hope so....that will send y'all home very sad....
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ScarletGrayskul said...
DR and Dg have a combined 28 passing and rushing tds. Braxton Miller on his own has 27 tds. And if you add Hydes TDs and combine everyones total yards OSU Duo comes out on top. I think Denard is the better runner for sure with more explosiveness and top end speed but overall I take Braxton second and DG last. Passing I like BM and DG over DR anyday. All 3 have their own skill set so comparing them is pretty difficult. Saturday will be exciting. I heard a rumor denard may be lined up at rb for you guys this week? Any truth to that? I wish both teams no injuries and hope that whatever bowl game you guys go to you represent the big10 well.

Yes, most expect Denard to be at RB, Slot, QB etc....
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