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Yeah, I f ing said it. He is the best athlete to ever don a uofm uniform, he is a God awful qb. Throw all the video game stats and downvotes all you want, he is a terrible qb
Duel threat system being run.
Hmmm, our qb has 5 turnovers, we have 0 pts, correlation? Common sense says that when something is broke, you fix it
Frankly, what I've seen of our backups in the past...it would not be a wise decision. Don't insert the backup QB into a rivalry game at night for his 1st meaningful snaps of the season when the game is still close.
If we were down 24-0 or 31-0, maybe. But it's only 10-0 with plenty of time.
This post was edited by vcmarsh1 19 months ago
Not going to argue him being a bad QB but he is probably the best option we have. He poses a threat that Bellamy doesn't.
Bellomy must not be ready.
I'm surprised we didn't switch to Gardner for a while.
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Once Gardner moved to receiver, you knew it was Denard or bust. There's nothing else there.
Because he runs fast. Simple as that.
I think it's more that we don't have a better option.
Gardner hasn't show much either. Everytime he is in there he looked liked another athlete, not a QB.
My overall thought this game (and other INT-laden games) is how awesome it would be to have an average passing QB and be able to use Denard's athleticism at WR or handing it off to him sometimes. I love Denard but this simply isn't Michigan football. I can't remember the last time I was able to watch Michigan play and see four quarters of solid passing, that should be the norm. Denard is awesome, just wish we had the luxury of using his abilities in another way.
I place all interception blame on denard. He needs to learn that its ok to just scramble for two yards.
However, when We started running the ball, the interception ratio dropped immensely. If We continue to run the ball, then We Wull be just fine.
He did pretty well as a passing QB against ND the two previous years, andagainst Nebraska and Ohio State. He succeeded in those games BECAUSE he's a runnin QB.
If you watched Mark May on ESPN last night, you will see why Denard failed last night. Borges is training DR to stay in the pocket. Now Denard is anchored there and not using his instincts and athleticism to move the pocket. It's quite frustrating for everyone involved, I'm sure.
Not taking care of the football cannot be tolerated regardless of the score or opponent. He needs to be on the bench when he forgets this basic principal and starts throwing it to the wrong team.
I would have pulled him for at least a possession or two after the second int.
The best option IMO doesn't end a half with four straight giveaways. Without the turnovers they might not of scored. How has turnover, after turnover turned into the best option for a Michigan fan base?
Michigan football is based on tough hard nosed defense, a good running game and TAKING CARE OF THE FOOTBALL.
I need to watch the game on tv before I am able to comment somewhat intelligibly. However, the offense was disappointing last night. In contrast, I loved the defense.
This post was edited by SDWolverine 19 months ago
Or throw it out of bounds when nothing is there. Unfortunately, he will never do that.
I think we can all agree that he is not a QB.... At the same time his ability to take over games and give them a chance to win them has to be taken into consideration... He played his worst game of his life (which is saying A LOT) and still had a shot to win this game... Its pretty simple that there is no other option at QB on this team... PLus, there are zero playmakers on this team outside of Denard... Solid skill player guys but no one that has take over ability like Denard... Is this shocking to anybody??? Maybe to the few that thought this team would be better than the 11 win team last year and expected this team to compete for the MNC... Give me a shot at the Rose Bowl in Hokes 2nd year after what we endured with Richard at the helm and I am happy.
After the 2nd int?! Kind of a short leash don't you think?? Especially when you don't have a quarterback who's taking a meaningful snap all season (and barely in a career). Yeah sure, if you're in ND's situation and you've to Rees back there who's been a starting QB for a season and a half as your backup, you have that luxury. Michigan unfortunately does not.
I know it's in our nature as fans to love a guy when he plays great and not be able to wait for him to graduate when he plays like shit. The level of hate for Denard when he plays like shit is mind-boggling. You're talking about a kid who singlehandedly won us the ND game in 2010 in one of the greatest single game performances I've ever seen. He played his best 2 games of the season last year when we were fighting for our BCS hopes.
Every time (literally, every time) we lose a game, we get the "DENARD ISN'T A QB! PUT SOMEONE ELSE BACK THERE!" calls. Personally when DG came in at QB last season, he didn't look anywhere near as good as Denard. Oh yeah, and he's also spent the majority of this season practicing at wide receiver. That then leaves Russsell Bellomy, who's thrown 2 passes in his college career, with one of them being intercepted lol.
How could you want EITHER of those 2 options in a game that is still in doubt? The fact of the matter is you have to stick with Denard because you know he can go the distance on any play. You know at some point, despite how badly is playing, he can pull a big play out of his ass and put you right back in the game.
I didn't say anything about hating Denard it's about coaching. If you continue to play someone who is making the same mistakes over, and over in the same game they will continue to make the same mistakes. They need to be on the bench.
The game I watched our defense was more than holding their own. The problem was the giveaways. I believe Hoke's famous statement is you can't lose if the other team doesn't score and they probably wouldn't have if we would have stopped turning the ball over
Are you familiar with the name Bo Schembechler?
There is noway that our quarterback would have continued to play with-out sitting on the bench for at least a few possessions, and probably the rest of the game. This is how Michigan football was built and needs to be played
Defense, run the ball, and TAKE CARE OF THE FOOTBALL!
This post was edited by Amazinglyblue78 19 months ago
It's has nothing to do with coaching or any of the above. Have you seen the rest of our QB's throw? They are just as bad or worse and that is why Denard is still the QB and will be til he graduates. Gardner can't throw to save his life and Bellamy just isn't a Big 10 QB. This is also why I don't see Shane Morris redshirting....he will instantly be the best QB on the roster the day he steps on campus and they will live with his growing pains.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
Yes, I'm familiar with Bo. And in a rivalry game against msu that was still in doubt, he kept Demetrius Brown in the game to the tune of 7 interceptions. Coaches go with who's going to give them the best chance to win. Even if he's playing like shit, if there's no better option, you have to stick with him.
I don't disagree with your point entirely. Yes, if a guy is playing like shit, you have to pull him. But not when he's far and away your biggest offensive weapon. Not when he's the only guy who's had experience in these games. Not when the separation between him and the backup is as great as it is.
uhhh, kind of like ND did last night. yanked their starter, backup got it done.
What did our opponents coaching staff do?
I remember that, Taylor was hurt. Our back-up last night was fine and I believe he was recruited by our staff to play at Michigan.
And I acknowledged that in my 1st post.
I said " Yeah sure, if you're in ND's situation and you've to Rees back there who's been a starting QB for a season and a half as your backup, you have that luxury. Michigan unfortunately does not."
You guys are acting like Rees is as inexperienced as our guys. You're absolutely comparing apples to oranges. Tommy Rees has gone on the road and started against Michigan. He's started at home against USC. He's gone on the road and started at Stanford.
But carry on about how you'd like to see Russell Bellomy lead us to victory in the 4th quarter lol. If you don't see a difference in those situations, I guess there's nothing else to say
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