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I thought the same thing. Today we moved the ball against a much better defense using play calling that made sense most of the time. I was waiting for Borgess to abandon effective play calling at any moment in the second half the way he did against OSU. Had Borgess used the play calling he used in the OSU game today we would have been humiliated. The Carolina front and defense as a whole was much faster than that of OSU. Even with good play calling it was tough. In the second half against OSU we were doomed before we even got the ball as Borgess did abandon everything that was working. Just sucks that we have to spend the next year hearing how great OSU is and how Meyer is the second coming of JT against us. With a solid game plan at home next fall the Bucks should be toast. We are going to be pushing them around quite often in the future. Loading up on linemen and aiming to control the line of scrimmage is exactly the right thing to do. OSU will land top skill players but none of that will matter if we control the line of scrimmage with manball tactics. We are going to be too physical for them to handle.
Blue I will argue the point on Ohio State getting pushed around in the trenches, Meyer is loading up on the DL, it will be fun to watch the upcoming battles but to say Michigan will dominate this area in my opinion is up for debate. The perception of our recruiting classes is that we are just loading up on playmakers, but there are different types of playmakers, I believe OSU is loading up on playmakers on the DL and secondary, Michigan has done a real nice job the last 2 classes loading up the OL. I think to be predicting next years winner is a little early, lots of things can happen, injuries for one, we have a easy schedule and you guys are definitely the highlight of it. I will say this about Meyer, hate him or love him look at his record in rivalry games, he clearly understands the importance of them, and I feel very lucky to have hi as our coach. I am sure that Michigan fans feel the same way with coach Hoke and what he has brought back to Michigan, I think we will be having these debates for quite sometime!
In the end ... you have to win the big games against ranked teams. We fell down this year.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
With a team that had very little top end talent and atrocious depth.... This team was nowhere near a Top 10 team and lost to 4 of the best 8 teams in the nation and a debacle by the coaches in Nebraska... I think it is laughable that people are upset with this team.... Back to the good ole days of being a Michigan fan
Just read this quote from Lewan from another site
From Lewan: "I think this team played together today, and this Big Ten team, this 8-5 team showed the SEC can bleed a little. The SEC's not All-Everything. The Big Ten is also the Big Ten; we're still the Big Ten. Did Northwestern win [over Mississippi State]? Hey, there you go."
I thought it was cool and wanted to share.
What you eat, don't make me shit.
Meyer won this year due to asnine second half playcalling on the Michigan side. All he had to do was sit back and win. It's nowhere close to the focus and ingenius gameplans JT used to win those games. 2001, 2006, and others if you watch them you see. Against Meyer I fear more in what Borgess will fail to do that will determine the outcome. Rewatch it if you haven't already. Could it be more obvious Michigan abandoned an effective gameplan? Where were those plays in the second half? It had nothing to do with Meyer and what Meyer did. With that gameplan we'd have been crushed today.
Clowney was in on the last play of the game.
Other than that just stopped by to say good game.
Can't bring myself to watch it again. I've thought about it because of the great 1st half...but I can't watch the 1st half knowing what happens in the 2nd.
This post was edited by vcmarsh1 18 months ago
Not true. Lewan did his job and limited Clowney, but Clowney still made a couple massive plays. Lewan also depended on more double teams than he has all season and struggles on other parts of the line were noticeable. Clowney was good, but I agree with many here that Ace Sanders was by far the player of the game.
#77 is Lewan, his assignment on that play wasn't even to block Clowney, so that play is not Lewan's fault. With that being said, yes, Lewan manhandled Clowney.
Honestly this team is not that good. For those upset about the loss, you have no reason to be. Come on now. USCe is a top 15 team. Michigan clearly isn't. We'll be fine once Hoke gets his players in here. We don't have much upperclassmen NFL talent on this roster. You need that to win.
We do have reason to be sad. Like you said, SCar is clearly the more talented/athletic team, but Michigan was in the game for the duration and frankly we outplayed SCar.
There are plenty of positives to be taken away from this game, but it's sad that we lost given how the game played out.
I wasn't commenting on Lewan (who I think did well). I was simply saying claiming "Clowney was Unimpressive" is not accurate even if it is subjective. I hate Lewan, but I can admit he is pretty damn good. You guys as a whole did a lot better today than I though you were going to. I think both of us are looking back at this season and are saying we started the wrong quarterback for too long.
Ah, ok. Good point. I don't think Clowney looked unimpressive, I think Lewan did better than anybody expected.
Connor Cook did look impressive from what I saw.
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 18 months ago
That is correct but the fact I had forgotten about it kinda says it all. I just think it's pretty obvious that the deciding element of the game was the last Carolina drive.
Wow, did y'all watch the game. Clowney was doubled and chipped a lot during the game and he lined up at different spots on the line. Unless your Lt moved around he didn't face clowney the entire game. Clowney said that he knew from film that he'd be able to blow that play up and boy did he ever. Lt is prob one of the first ol pick in the draft but lets be real, clowney is a freak and he changed the outcome of the game. Btw, do you really think that we played our best. Not even close, we ran like 5 times besides Shaw with the keeper. Great game, we got lucky to win but we kept y'all in the game
You "ran like 5 times" because you couldn't run. Our defensive line was dominating your offensive line up front. So you did what you had to do to win: You gave up on the run and threw the ball every down. Don't act like Michigan didn't have anything to do with your lack of running game today. Give some credit where credit is due. Our secondary got exploited today, but your offensive line got exploited too.
Also, do you think that Michigan played their best game today? Did you see how many wide open receivers our quarterback missed? Those were easy passes that would have consistently extended drives. I could just as easily say that we "kept y'all in the game." This is why most of the country hates the SEC. You guys are so arrogant and cocky. If you get in a close game, it is only because you happened to have a bad day. Just like there is a way to avoid being a "bad loser," there is also a way to avoid being a "bad winner."
I don't agree with this at all. We kept you in the game by missing wide open receivers and turning the ball over. You didn't run up an down the field on us with long grueling drives, we kept you in the game by allowing big plays to bail out your offense. Did you watch the game? Clowney's "great play" was a cluster of mistakes by our OL leading to a free run into the backfield to tackle our smallest player.
Great play by a DE is bowling over the tackle and or guard on his way into the backfield, or making a sweet move beating the tackle and making a play. You should watch some Reggie White, Bruce Smith highlights, they aren't a bunch of blown plays by the opposing OL.
The play Clowney made v Tennessee at the end of the game was a much greater play then the one against us.
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