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You mean like last year?
Its true. As long as THE Ohio State University is around you'll always play second fiddle to us. Urban Meyer is going to do the same thing to you that Tressel did. Just get used to it!!!
We lost to teams combining 43-3 records, all on the road, and we could have won 3 of them. Turnovers cost us in all of them. I wouldnt say we are getting further from everyome else when we out recruited both last year and thjs year so far. Dobwe need some offensive firepower? Yes, its been concerning, but we have plenty of time to grab some.
And im surely not going to throw chesskn and darboh undef the bjs and say they cant play. The only reason funchess is playing is because no one was ahead of him that could produce.
I think you are missing my point. You say he is winni.g with someone elses players, but they are all five star top recruits? Tressel obviously ran the spread and power and so does urban. I dont see how any coach couldnt win with years and years of depth and talent.
I am making a poimt that rich rod disnt just have a completely different type of player, but that it there wasnt enough to play how we need too. On top of that we jad too many low star and walkons. A ton of four stars rich rod did get left the program.
We have players, we are recruiting well(number one class on scout) and we will finjsh strong.
Don't make this about recruiting .. this is about W's and L's .. and OSU and ND are 12-0. Also ... could'a.. should'a .. would'a does not make a program.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
Great. Then we should expect to sign DG and LT. Good. We need some elite playmakers.
You made this about recruiting. You said we are getting farther from them and that we wont get the talent. Am i wrong?
Yes. I never said we would not get the talent. I said we have not closed the talent. Last year we fell apart near the end. I am curious to see what happens this year. We need DG and LT, but we will not get both - if any IMO.
As some say ... maybe this is all a recruiting fog that will lift in the next 2 months, and Michigan gets their offensive elite playmakers,
We should get some. But LT is gone, like gone gone. no reason to even mention him.
Who do UM fans keep trying to hang there hat on the fact that 3 of UM's losses this year were to top 5 teams (assuming you recognize Ohio St's AP ranking)?
All that proves is your team isn't in the same conversation with those teams. For some reason UM fans seem to think it's a notch on their resume. "We got beat by the 2 teams playing for the BCS Championship. Hail!"
When it's a 1 possession game at the rivals school, that is easily in the same conversation. If you want to act like ohio will be miles ahead of Michigan because of a 5-point win, that Michigan constantly shot themselves in the foot, then more power to ya.
Thank you Kyle. I've been extremely annoyed with all these pessimists crying the last 2 days.
Slow down man. We lost by 5 and 7 to those teams respectively. The majority would say the 7 point loss should of been a 7 point win and that team is in the NC game. We are going to be fine, the Ohio game was not nearly as close as the score and that had to do with coaching some ours but mostly theirs. We will continue to be competitive and better in the years to come.
This post was edited by Amazinglyblue78 17 months ago
Get Borgess the F out of here asap otherwise just accept the fact that 9-3 most likely will be the ceiling. Few coaches in America would have not had both DR and DG out there together in the second half and unfortunately we happened to have one of the fools who didn't have them out there. The sign of a bad coach is an unwillingness to use what works when it is needed the most. I've seen alot of screw ups but this takes the cake. Al coached as if his mission were to lose the game. We will never know what could have been. He ran plays as if we had the 1990 o line and Leroy Hoard back there. A good coach would realize that our O line sucks and a little guy will never gian much going up the middle against a good d line. We had to win this game this year and should have. We had the superior offensive talent and chose to hand the other team the game. patheitc.............
I agree Borges hasn't shown that he really knows what his players strengths and weaknesses are. I'm pretty sure his seat is getting a little warm, or at least I hope that is the case.
Look, Hoke is not going to fire Borges. He has at least one more year. But if this doesn't improve next year, with his style of offense...Hoke must look elsewhere.
The fact of the matter is we have no talent on the O line , we got pushed back and couldn't open holes for the back on short yardage.
Borgess must have taken a sleeping pill at the half because he came out asleep in the 2nd half.
The mediocre at best play calling was just terrible. The switching of Qb's was the worst thing I have ever seen( everyone in the stadium knew Denard was not going throw the ball) So why not have him in as back like the first half it was working 120 something yards! Im no coach of course!
The coaching was once again out coached in a big game. No other arguments should be made about that!
Now I do believe its going to get better before it gets worse if we keep recruiting well.
I thought we were going to have a down year , last year was over achieving team IMO.
We lost some close games yes , but gotta stop making bad decisions in play calling and play over all plain and simple!
play calling was bad, plain and simple. no one can argue that and who would want to? but, brian kelly looked like a purple faces idiot out there for two years blundering away games with stupid calls and players fumbling like we did. and now they are going to a national championship game this year. this staff has one more year to make things click before something has to be done.
we do not need to go to the national championship, but we better be in the talk right up to the end in my opinion.
Another thing that has been bothering me this year is the lack of development in the RB and Qb position.
Denard got worse at Qb IMO
Bellomy Who by the way was an elite 11 qb like Morrris ( maybe not as good but still) looked lost in his games. Makes you thin or at least me think.
The entire Rb core was inept this year to say the least.
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