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does michigan ever over sign like some of the few schools in the sec does? and is there a possibility they would oversign this year?
This post was edited by blayze714 21 months ago
I doubt it, the coaches know what's going on and they wouldn't want to tarnish the image they've built up.
yea i would be real surprised if our coaches did that
I'm not gonna lie, and I'm not trying to be mean, but what the hell? This is one of the stupidest questions ever. If you don't have faith in the school you cheer for to do the right thing than why cheer for them?
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Never Lose Hoke 21 months ago
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
Ease up bro. He's asking a simple question. Having faith in your team and asking a question about recruiting is two different topics.
I'd say it's a fair question since as it stands right now we are oversigning for 2013. It will probably all work out in the end after attrition but then again it always works out ok in the end for SEC schools too doesn't it?
Now if the question is do we force commits to grey shirt or tell them there is no room like some SEC schools do, the answer is no.
highly doubt our coaches would pull anything like that on our commits, if there's more attrition then its anyones game
Well bama has only signed more than michigan once in the last three years. 2013 will likely make it one out of four.
This post was edited by ReasonableDoubt 21 months ago
I'm not familiar with Bama's recruiting, and I don't pretend to be, but Michigan's classes have been slightly larger due to large amounts of attrition from 2 coaching changes.
Point remains, after this year bama will have signed a larger class than michigan only once in 4 years.
Bama had a coaching change AND came off sanctions.
Not sure what your point is. Are you saying Bama doesn't oversign? Doesn't try to get kids to grayshirt?
I think at one point Alabama had more medical redshirts than the rest of the SEC combined.
This is true.
Maybe they're just very accident-prone down in Tuscaloosa?
And yet we've only signed a bigger class than u once in the last three years, for after this year. So what are u doing with your players?
Fwiw, those medical guys still graduate from college.
If you are signing as many, where are your players going?
FWIW, Alabama uses medical redshirts to oversign players.
I noticed you didn't really dispute that.
What do u use? How can u sign the same amount?
Coaching change. Lots of transfers. Kids Hoke didn't actually recruit who ended up going to different schools.
He's an MSU fan. And I already told you, Michigan has had an unreal amount of transfers. For example, go through Michigan's 2008 class and count how many stayed for more than 2 years. Also, this happened for the 09 and 10 classes too.
So u kick urs out and we put them on medical scholarship so they can still graduate. Yes, we are evil.
To make it worse, we sign a lot of juco guys that only stay 2 years. We sign a lot of guys that go to juco, but they are listed twice. And we've had about ten 3 and out guys the last few years. Add that up and we've signed less than u.
So these kids transfered from ur school but went on medical at bama. We switched from shula and a team full of scrubs to saban so of course there was roster management.
But the same happens at michigan. Some kids are strongly encouraged to transfer.
Saban has been there a while now so that doesn't apply to the last few years.
Ha. The kids that transferred weren't recruited by Hoke. There was no relationship built between the kid and Hoke. Hoke didn't look those kids and their parents in the face and get them to commit to Michigan. I seriously doubt he strongly encouraged those kids to transfer.
Saban on the other hand recruited those kids. Built the relationship and now you are admitting that he strongly then encouraged them kids to transfer because they weren't good enough.
You are completely wrongyT. The vast majority of medicals were recruited by shula. In fact you can count on one hand the shula guys that transfered. Thats bc the only players that came to bama back then did so bc they were born and raised bama kids. When saban got here, we had 8 ol on scholarship. We couldn't field a two deep at lb or dl, we only had a ton of dbs. We were so bad, we didn't even have any guys drafted when saban got here.
Plus the shula guys were super small and our strength program was a joke and we had guys getting inured in every quarter. Savan brought in true freshman that instantly became the biggest and strongest person at his position.
So where hoke xferred his scrubs out, saban put them on medical scholarships and made sure that they graduated.
Were they all medical redshirts? Because it's strange how an Alabama site would detail the numerous ways "roster management" takes place (in this case 2010).
"So how will this attrition happen? Here are the ways:
We've already seen Rolando McClain and Kareem Jackson declare for the NFL Draft. The deadline has already passed, so these two guys appear to be the only two going this route. But it's possible that another guy or two declared without making his intentions known.
Players can transfer. Some guys will leave the program due to a lack of playing time or a personal situation that leads to move closer to home.
Players can simply move on with their life. Bama has several players who have already earned their degree that aren't likely to see playing time in 2010. With the NFL not an option for these guys, they might simply decide to move on.
Players can be moved to a medical hardship scholarship. This allows them to remain on full scholarship, but it effectively ends their football career at Alabama. We saw this happen with Ivan Matchett prior to the 2009 season.
Players can be asked to leave the team. That, apparently, happened prior to the 2009 season with Alonzo Lawrence and Jermaine Preyear. It's technically incorrect to say that they were kicked off of the team, but that is essentially what happened.
Players can fail to qualify academically. Bama had zero players with academic problems in the fall semester, so this is unlikely. However, studies have continually shown that collegiate student-athletes perform better academically during their competitive season. So while this is unlikely, it is a possibility.
Players can get into off of the field trouble that causes them to be kicked off of the team. These situations are wildly unpredictable, but they unfortunately do happen. They happen less frequently in a well-disciplined program, but they do happen."
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