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Since 1919, our rivalry is separated by one game.... tOSU by winning Saturday, has one more win than Michigan. Yes, you have the overall, winning 13 of the first 15 games from 1890's to 1918...
Even if we jump ahead to what is considered the "Modern Era" of football 1950-present, our rivalry is still only a 5 game difference.
When you look at other rivalries, none have the history of ours, none have the balance of ours, it is a great rivalry!!
I agree, I wonder what the Auburn- Alabama rivalry series is?
Bama 41 Auburn 34 Tie 1
Only other rivalry I like is Army vs Navy...The history and "pageantry" is awesome.
Navy leads that one 52-48 w/ 7 ties.
you are correct....
Why do you guys always try and change the rules. Your like a little sister that can't ever get over the hump so with some delusional change of the rules they convince themselves the advantage is theirs.
Where did I do that? I included that you have the overall, then pointed out how close the rivalry has been for 93 years....Get over yourself..
Yeah, Robo was being fair...he was just citing the numbers.
I was born in 1973, and since then UM leads the series 19-17-2...I guess that is all that matters to me
This post was edited by neoavatara 17 months ago
Well 1919 is a rather random year to cite, I mean what's so special about 1919 with regards to college football.
I could've posted just the modern era of football where the Buckeyes have the advantage. The 1919 came from another article on the rivalry, that simply stated it was tied since 1919 through 2011. That's where it came from. My bad....crappy rivalry, and Michigan is the best, as they have dominated the series since 18xx....
Is that better? Geez
We're all a little edgy bro. It should be expected.
Robo, you were fine here. We're just used to the same tired old attacks that come from Bucknuts everywhere, ex. "9 of the last 11! WOOO!" or some equally arbitrary time frame that looks very good for OSU. These arguments inevitably devolve into Michigan fans pointing to the overall record and OSU fans arguing for whatever period of time they initially came on to this board to brag about.
Don't take it the wrong way, a lot of the posts you saw here are pretty much just kneejerk reactions to the usual idiotic comments on this topic.
Ok man it's a great rivalry. One of the major reasons for that is the longevity not the whenever you want to pick a starting point. It is a great rivalry but state it for what it is, or should we all start from our birthdays? You guys won this year and it was competitive, just not competitive enough for my liking.
1919, hahahahahahaha.... nice try pal.
1919 is not an arbitrary year for Buckeye fans. It marks the first year OSU won the game. Previous to that, the best OSU had done was a tie. A lot of writers point to that game as the beginning of the football rivalry.
If you enjoy the history of the rivalry like I do, you may find some of the early game facts interesting. For example, our first game against one another was in 1897, but none of our games were conference games until Michigan joined the Big 10 in 1918. That is another date commonly sighted for the beginning of the rivalry among some because it marked the beginning of conference play. Also, because of the conference issue, we didn’t play each other from 1913 through 1917.
The most lopsided decade of the rivalry was not the 8-2 record compiled by the Buckeyes in the 2000s or the 7-2-1 record compiled by the Wolverines in the 90s. From 1900-1909 Michigan had a 9-0-1 record against the Buckeyes. I think it is safe to say that neither side felt it was much of a rivalry back then.
The 1950s marked the only decade where the schools split the series 5-5. Of course, one of those wins for Michigan was the famous snow bowl that led to the hiring of Woody Hayes. His success against Michigan led to the hiring of Bo Schembechler. Those two men defined the rivalry with such honor and passion that the game took on a life of its own. While they were leading their teams, the game began to become more popular than the Army/Navy game. It truly took the game to the next level and into the watchful eye of national television.
The rivalry is so popular and borderline absurd that Jon Stewart (Daily Show) once compared the rivalry to the dispute between Sunni and Shiite Muslims. It has been the subject of several documentaries and has been referenced in pop culture too many times to count.
I was on here last week making a big ruckus and talking a lot of trash. I love doing that once a year. Now that the game is behind us, I can admit to all of you Wolverine fans that our two fan bases are the stewards of a national treasure. I am proud to be a part of it.
"Tonight, my butt's sore." - Mike Krzyzewski 11-29-11
"1919 is not an arbitrary year for Buckeye fans. It marks the first year OSU won the game. Previous to that, the best OSU had done was a tie. A lot of writers point to that game as the beginning of the football rivalry."
Meh. I rather start the count the first year Michigan won...
Either way, regardless what MSU fans want to believe... OSU IS and ALWAYS WILL be Michigan's biggest rival.
OK, true confession. I get a big kick out of reading these Mich vs Ohio State 'world's greatest rivalry ' threads. If this game was really as important as you claim you wouldn't have to constantly proclaiming that it was. First you bash each other for cheating, or being jealous, or perpetual bridesmaids etc, then you finish by agreeing that UM and OSU will dominate the Big 10 like the 1970's...
'Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable'
- President John F. Kennedy
We don't have to proclaim it...every poll, every survey of sportscasters...they declare it to be true.
Obsessed Sparty is obsessed.
'every survey of sportscasters'?
Lets say it this way: nationally, no one cares about Sparty.
Oh, please say MSU is your rival! Please, please, PLEASE...
Either way, regardless what MSU fans want to believe... OSU IS and ALWAYS WILL be Michigan's biggest rival.'
As opposed to all of the Big 12, Pac 12 and SEC fans who care about what happens in Ann Arbor...?
As much as I would love to negate the early years of the rivalry, those games happened and the results count. If anything, I hope to see OSU even the series in my lifetime. (Im 42).
I hate it when fans sweep those games away.
I love this rivalry and respect Michigan. The hardest thing I have to do is write recommendation letters for my students that want to attend UM. The only time I truly lost respect for UM football was during the RR tenure. I truly didn't like him and I was calling for his job after the first year. Its weird for me, I honestly like seeing Michigan win every game except one. (if they lose, I don't really mind that either..lol)
The Game is the one thing I would resist change. I would rather UM and OSU be in the same division, because I don't want to see rematches. The Game needs to be the last game.
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