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From Dan Patrick:
"Recently there have been articles about how the NCAA was out of line when the did their investigation into the Reggie Bush issue that landed USCw on probation with all the scholarship reductions. This was brought up by, i think, a court proceeding that somehow came to this ruling..so now USCw is gonna go up against eh NCAA and go against their ruling in regards to scholarship reductions. Dan pointed out that Pat Haden told Lane Kiffin to disregard the 15 scholarship limit by the NCAA this year, and sign a full 25..."
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Well that explains why they're taking so many this year
I'm not at all familiar with the details of the NCAA's investigation into USC, so I can't speak to its legitimacy. I do, however, think this could be a very dangerous precedent. If they get away with defying the NCAA based upon some media coverage, Pandora's box will have been opened. It could be the wild west. If you think nice guys finish last now.....!
Maybe in the long run, that could be a good thing as that might force the NCAA to get an overhaul or get replace by something better.
If the NCAA backs down, everybody will fight them. They are going to bury their feet in the sand on this.
With the way this case is going, and with the court case about player's rights to their likenesses in video games (don't remember what the name of that case is), NCAA isn't looking to be in a good spot right now.
I want to see the NCAA dissolve into nothingness sometime in my lifetime.
It is one of the most enduring, crooked organizations in modern American history.
I agree the NCAA is crooked but it should not be brought down by a school that committed violations. It needs to be brought down by a group of Universities that are in good standing.
i know absolutely nothing about this, really, but it seems like the NCAA has really boxed themselves in. How can they dig in on this case after giving OSU a lighter touch for what seemed more widespread.
I would not be surprised to see USC's sanctions get cut way back.
I would be pissed about this, too, but Lane Kiffin will have USC underperforming on a yearly basis either way.
The NCAA would dump additional sanctions on them probably...in which case, it becomes a matter of whether the Pac 10 and others would step in.
It would be a mess. They frankly would be stupid to do this, since they are basically done with their punishment as it is.
Think about the NCAA as an institution. It has no ability to enforce its rulings or sanctions. Hence, I am surprised it has taken this long for schools to realize that the NCAA has no recourse in the face of defiance.
I understand that, but it is like many things...if the members still believe they should adhere to it, then it matters.
The conferences still would rather have the NCAA to blame than have to enforce rules themselves...and everyone knows you have to have someone doing it.
So is the Pac 10 just going to take a pass? I doubt it. They may dump their own sanctions, and USC can't ignore that.
I do hope the NCAA goes away, but I don't see it happening near term.
Perfect....this just means that Ohio and Urbs will continue to cheat with impunity
If you consider that the NCAA infractions committee that dished out those penalties to USC was headed by Paul Dee, the guy who as AD oversaw loads of the at times blatant cheating at Miami, you can sympathize with USC's stance here. All in all, if you look at what happened at USC and compare it to various other scandals that drew *much* more lenient penalties at other powerhouses, one does notice a discrepancy.
But of course, just because the cops are corrupt, it doesn't mean that there are no crooks. It just becomes harder and harder to tell them apart.
Would also think that the judge, USC graduate, making that ruling would have removed himself from the hearing. How is USC graduate allowed to be the judge in a case against his school?
Ask Elena Kagan that regarding the Obamacare ruling in the Supreme Court
I don't like the NCAA, but if USC is not going to abide by the the sanctions in particular scholarship reductions why would any school? Why would schools limit their football teams to 85 scholarships players? Just make sure there is equality in the women's athletic department and a team could keep 100 maybe 110 scholarship players in the fold.
I also don't understand why it matters what happened in other schools cases. This makes USCw sound like a 10 year old brat.
This is not a good precedent and I would hope the university presidents would not let USC compete if they can't play by the rules.
Can someone explain to me what the McNair case has to do with this? I remember Thanksgiving, SC fans were acting like it was a smoking gun or something.
This is not going to end well for USC IMO. They should just take it. The NCAA is going to start digging again. Their problem isn’t the sanction’s, their problem is that D, and CLK’s horrible play calling and clock management.
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