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It definitely is a personal preference thing. I would just rather win in a controlled game, by controlling the line of scrimmage, and letting your d go to town. Rather then trying to outscore teams.
I'm old, so no, not a video gamer....
I too LOVE smashmouth football. I wish all games were still outside on grass...
That being said, I don't like the Oregon spread, I do like the way Urban ran it last year. He DOES utilize a big back and prioritizes the off tackle run first and foremost, as he has said numerous times upon his hire. Now, at UF, Tebow was his inside runner and his smaller backs were his outside threat. Last year, Hyde and Smith were his inside w/ Braxton being the outside. He will always have both, so my preference is to have a big RB with a QB that can option the edge with another fast back or slot shifted into the backfield.
I have no problem with the old power I formation either, but as I've seen in the last 10 years or so, we've had ZERO outside threat from the run game unless Pryor scrambled. It is refreshing for us to actually have an offense designed to put pressure on the defense for the entire width of the field. We've lived through the "Punt is the most important play" and a year of Bollman calling all the plays, so this truly is refreshing....
OT, BOLLMAN, what was MSU thinking?????
I definitely can concede that Meyer utilizes a form of the power run game out of his spread. And yes it is a much better offense than the Oregon spread. My hate for the spread, and especially a Rich Rod or Chip Kelly system trickles down towards hating on the U Meyer types of spread game. Just because of the fact that as a base offense it is definitely a form of the spread. I realize I generalize the spread offense, because no two are the same. However if I was a coach I would never run out of the spread offense as my base. It's just how I believe in building a team, and what style I personally believe in.
Btw, if I was to hypothetically have a spread team I do agree with your preference. It is much easier to find a Big RB and a fast QB, then it is to find a Tim Tebow type. That would be my preference simply for recruiting options. Not too many Tebows or Kleins out there.
This post was edited by Johnzo18 17 months ago
Bellichick, Harbaugh, Payton, Shanahan, McCarthy must truly not like football. Just because there are different style doesn't mean one is illegitimate. It is definitely a thinking man's game and the evolution of the sport is what makes it most exciting IMO.
This post was edited by ABogie 17 months ago
New England's bases offense is both of their TE's on the field at once, Just because Tom Brady is in the shotgun doesn't mean spread. Harbaugh runs power football, ooh he ran some zone read, and inverted veer last year, so that means his is a spread offense. Haha, that's so funny calling Harbaughs offense a spread. I said, I don't agree with teams that use the spread offense as their "base" offense. Where did I ever say that it can't be sprinkled into an offense? Btw I do agree that football is an evolving sport, but to try and throw those coaches names at me to support a base spread offense is laughable to me. I wasn't trashing the use of specific plays out of the spread to mix it up with your primary offense, but rather I was bashing the spread as the actual primary offense. I repeat, not a fan of the spread offense as my teams "base" offense.
Wasn't using the mentioned coaches as examples of spread, just as something different then the base "hard, smash mouth, hit you in the face, coming down hill, thumping each other style of football". Most of the NFL could of worked as an example. I understand not liking the spread. I just thought it was silly to say that people who like the spread don't like football for what it truly is.
Well for the most part...Harbaugh's offense is downhill smash mouth.
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
I would say more so with Alex Smith.
I generalized a group of fans that like spread offense football. I even said in the conclusion that I made some generalizations, and I don't disagree with you that making generalizations isn't silly. Are their exceptions, of course their are. However most people that enjoy watching a high scoring spread offense game are much more casual fans and not "hardcore" football fans.
I'm going to make an analogy For eg: why all the new rules in the NFL? So the game can be more high scoring and interesting on the surface too more casual fans that don't know or understand the game fully. People that don't appreciate defense and the trenches for what "football truly is" are not attracted to the old game. So they are trying to up points in games to draw in people that did not originally watch football. "A lot" of the new viewers like the high scoring video type of game. It is just like the new NHL(which by the way sucks) they want to up goals scored to draw viewers and have eliminated a lot of the rough and tumble, hacking, and holding from the game that used to make is so enjoyable to watch.
I don't know if my NFL and NHL analogy make sense to others, but they do to me. I hope they are understandable.
Who'd they miss on now?
Marcelys Jones is looking like less and less of an OSU commit now...which is funny because he is a Glenville kid. Apparently he has a lot of interest in Kentucky and possibly Alabama.
Hopefully he'll continue the long and proud tradition of Aundrey Walker - Glenville OLs going elsewhere when Ohio needs them badly.
That's just because "committed" doesn't mean anything these days. See: Ezekiel Elliot, David Dawson, Denzel Ward, Trey Johnson, Reuben Foster, Tony Stevens, etc. The list goes on and on.
They're committed to your team when they sign the paperwork on Feb 6th, otherwise good luck!
Denzel Ward was a different situation, the Michigan coaches dropped him after he moved to Florida without informing them and taking multiple visits to Florida. But regardless, you are right.
tell someone who cares
This thread cares, otherwise why talk about OSU OL recruiting? As far as I'm aware there are no 78 page threads on Michigan WR recruiting on any OSU forum I've been to lately lol.
As much as I hate to say it... Touché.
I have little doubt Jones will be a Buckeye in the end. He's always maintained that he'll take visits despite committing.
That said, the reactions in that thread are entertaining.
This thread is the gift that keeps on giving.
Fair point. We care about it for differing reasons, but we sure as heck care a bit.
That's because our WRs are going to be much better then the sh*t olinemen you guys have been bringing in. If the WRs we are recruiting were as as the Olinemen you guys have been bringing in then I'm sure you guys would have a thread as well.
This post was edited by buttesnake 16 months ago
Hey, be nice to dukeluke, he's one of the very few good Bucknut posters who come over here.
Always nice to hear about Urb potentially missing out on Olinemen in his backyard, because up to this juncture he really hasn't proven he can recruit big guys outside of Ohio.
I was screwing around 110%. I didn't see a sarcasm emoticon so I thought the smiley face might cover that for me.
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