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This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 18 months ago
Hey guys just wanted to give my 2 cents about OSUs Oline.
Next year we will have 14 scholarship lineman
Marcus Hal OG
Corey Linsleyl C
Jack Mewhort LT
Andrew Norwell OG/T
Darryl Baldwin OT converted DE
Tommy Brown OG
Antonio Underwood OG listed as a T but is 6''2
Chase Farris OG/T converted DE
Jacoby Boren C
Taylor Decker OT
Pat Elflein C/OG
Kyle Dodson OT
Evan Lisle OT high 4 star
Timothy Gardner OG 3/4 star
Marcus Hal OG
Corey Linsleyl C
Jack Mewhort LT
Andrew Norwell OG
Taylor Decker RT
2013 3/4 starters return and should be very very good. They should be the best unit on the team. Taylor Decker will be the only new starter and he almost beat out Fragel in the summer of 2012.
Now 2014 is were it gets kinda scary. This might be a championship level team but the fact we are replacing 4/5 starters and will only have 3 true tackles on the team that aren't freshman scares me. The key to this group is Kyle Dodson if he doesn't pan out we will have big issues IMO. We really need / needed another tackle or 2 in this class. I think if we have the opportunity we need to take Skipper and Hunt in 2013.
My overall point is I tend to agree with a lot of UM fans. Missing on all the tackles we did this year really hurts OSU. With that said if Dodson turns out to be a good player we should be alright. If Dodson doesn't pan out and we have a couple injuries we will be in deep shit. Also Dodson is coming off of a shoulder injury.
Just wanted to give some insight.
This post was edited by Huburt 18 months ago
What did UMs Oline depth look like last year I know it how pretty atrocious ?
It was really bad. Thank god our starters never went down, but if a starter ever did go down, we would have had to replace him with either a freshman or a walk on.
Yeah, it was pretty terrible. As Rabid said, the one non-freshman/walk-on backup OL we had suffered a season-ending injury, so we were pretty much boned if anyone missed serious time. One of our walk-ons has turned into a pretty solid OG (Joey Burzynski), but he's still not anywhere near the quality that we'd want starting.
Whats the plan next year ? A couple of those RsFr starting ? You guys RS all 5 right?
LT: RS SR Taylor Lewan --- RS FR Erik Magnuson --- FR Logan Tuley-Tillman
LG: RS FR Kyle Kalis --- RS FR Blake Bars --- FR Dan Samuelson
C: RS SO Jack Miller --- FR Patrick Kugler
RG: RS SO Chris Bryant --- FR Kyle Bosch (EE) --- FR David Dawson
RT: RS SR Mike Schofield --- RS FR Ben Braden --- FR Chris Fox
I find it hilarious that everyone on Bucknuts makes fun of us for having "so many OL" when we have the same number of scholarship OL that you do even after these two classes. Those are some good ol' educated Bucknuts over there.
You can never have enough top quality linemen on either side of the ball. Especially in college where they can only stay four years tops. Here's a question.
What usually wins the game when you have a stud oline on one team And a stud dline on the other? Assume all the other areas even out. I know it never does but which units usuAlly win?
Most of that is just shit talking / ppl just believing anything anti UM. Kinda like are Oline recruiting although I will completely concede that point if we wif in 14. Whats plan for 14/15 just a couple olineman a year? Thats a lot of guys over 2 years 11?
I'm not sure why that would be funny, all it does is open 2 more spots for Urban to fill this year with players that may contribute to his system. I'm all for it. If they guys weren't going to get playing time, move on to somewhere they'll be happy and we'll get to add maybe one of the Oregon commits or Timmons from KY. All good to me.
It'll be 10 guys over 2012/2013, and the classes will be split evenly 5-5, since Bosch won't be getting a RS. I believe the plan is to take around 3-4 OL/year from now on, depending on RS SRs. We took so many now for immediate depth purposes, but we should be able to dial it back a bit in the future.
This hurts in the OL department, that's why it's funny. OLs are one of the positions where it's very, very, very difficult to come in and contribute as a freshman, so pushing back one of the OLs reduces viable depth even more. OSU was already looking at depleted depth in 2014-15, and it could be even worse with O'Connor gone.
On top of that, I'm a firm believer in the bird-in-the-bush v. bird-in-the-hand theory - it's infinitely more valuable to have a solid OL in the fold already than merely the potential for more. What happens if Skipper and Hunt stick with their commitments? It sounds all well and good that there's more open spots now, but Urban hasn't exactly knocked it out of the park with OL recruiting so far, and there's no reason to believe that he'll turn it around suddenly in the next couple weeks.
Thanks so the plan is to have around 16-18 scholarship Olineman on roster? lol that kinda scares me.
I think the idea is to have a base of 16 at all times, and then go up from there a bit depending on RS SRs.
Again I agree, O'connor is a big loss. He was a guy that could play T or G and seemed to be a good Athlete with a mean streak. It hurts even more bc are 2011 Oline class sucks monkeyballs so we really needed everyone in the class behind them to pan out. Unfortunately He had a bad knee and got home sick.
Not to get off topic but in 2014 and especially 2015 how are you guys envisioning the offense to look? Something Similar to Stanford?
Ideally? Alabama. Big mean OL with a big bruising RB and then the playaction is set up perfectly from that. Obviously we have a long long long way to go before that happens, but we're going in the right direction.
I get ya, but honestly, if you have someone on your team that either A) isn't "getting it" and not going to play or B) just isn't happy for whatever reason and wants to be somewhere else, then the odds of them becoming a valuable contributer aren't very good. So I say, I hope he finds what he's looking for and I'm not worried with our OL numbers, we have 13 or 14 OL on roster, a few more on the way, and a few more next year. Hope it works out, but little I can do, so I choose not to sweat it..
It's funny because you guys need OL. You lost an OL that had a year under his belt at OSU. Now if you sign more OL you have been set back a year. This led to all of the
I'll agree that someone who isn't happy probably won't be a valuable contributor (see Dwight Howard, Lakers), but the fact of the matter is, he was a talented 4-star prospect and it always hurts to lose good depth, especially when you're in OSU's current situation.
it does, i would have rather not seen him go with our numbers, even if he wasnt going to contribute solid depth is important. I am staying optimistic about the converted Dlineman just because they played Oline in highschool. Most of Farris offers were actually for the Oline. However, just as an earlier poster said contributing right away on the Oline is almost impossible which is why it is important not to have a few stay and contribute from each class even if it be for depth.
Diegobuck I tried so hard to read your post but kept loosing focus because of that ungodly hott asian in your signature haha. Very nice
haha thanks man, i got the yellow plague. apparently im not the only one.
She's our main hostess for the recruits.....
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