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I would have to disagree about speedy playmakers....Alabama's receivers were constantly behind ND's DB's...That's speed...
For the last 4 years you guys have had one of the premiere "speedy playmakers" in football...would you say he wasn't the difference in most of your games? I sure would.
As for OL vs DL recruits, I just believe it's a little easier to coach someone into a good OL. The freaks on the DL's in the SEC are pure talent, then when coached are sick... There is no way you can coach what Clowney has for talent, you can teach him technique etc.. but the main difference in the SEC and all of us has been the speed of their DLines. Those big F'ers are in the backfield before we can hand off. That's what it will take to compete with Bama.
The last 2 posts make alot of sense. I believe ill put my trust into the 2 time Nat Champ coach who went undefeated with a 6-7 team from the year before. Thanks
If Kelly leaves ND, expect Urban to go after all those OL.Heck, he proly calling now
how many scholarship they have left?
Hell, if Kelly leaves, we better be on the phone with Colin McGovern to take the 6th OL spot in this class. He had a lot of major interest in Michigan, but just got shut out, and I'd rather have him than any of our other OL targets now.
The recruit I most want from Notre Dame's class is LB Jaylon Smith. He's the crown jewel.
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He's not leaving ND no matter who the coach is.
I doubt many recruits leave the class - the reason ND has still gotten such good recruits over the last 20 years is because of Notre Dame, not because of the coach.
Hell, in past years when ND finished 7-5 they didn't leave...why would they leave now?
Oh, and you better hope Smith doesn't leave...his #2 choice is OSU.
This post was edited by neoavatara 15 months ago
Well, Smith didn't leave, but another LB certainly did...I'm so glad Anzalone got shut out of Michigan's LB recruiting.
Did Anzalone decommit?
He switched to Florida today.
And doing Early entry there starting...tomorrow.
Which makes you think, he was only going to ND if they won the BCS game?
Thanks, was just reading that in the other thread.
Any ND OL commits high on ohio before committing the first time? Bivin maybe?
They targeted Bivin, but he was pretty strongly committed to ND, there wasn't much question. I doubt OSU would be able to pull any of that group.
I'm sure they'll try their hardest. If something doesn't come out Friday or Saturday I expect to lose a few kids.
If Meyer lands any ND recruits, then he will have hit the recruiting jackpot consecutive years.
I've now realized the key to Michigan's OL recruiting: Zingerman's. I was up in Ann Arbor for the last week, probably gained 5 lbs from Zingerman's alone. Too good, too good.
I haven't seen much talk about recruiting the type of OL you need for your style of offense. Everywhere meyer has coached he has had a good offense. His spread style requires a different type of OL than Hoke's. They just went undefeated with a line that was ranked worse than any he will ever recruit while at osu. He just beat michigan with the worst set of offensive palymakers he will ever have at osu. He has never had high numbers at OL. You only play five and they usually don't come out unless injured. When you start to look at the quality and depth of the dl at osu vs michigan i don't know how you aren't worried. You might have 15 OL that are awesome but only 5 can play at a time. The more they play together, the better they usually are. All Meyer needs to have is five players out of 4 classes. DL can rotate and stay fresh. He just turned a tight end into an NFL Tackle. Two of the underperforming DTs are switching to OG. They could very well dominate on offense. DTs tend to be more athletic and nastier than OL.
Responding to an earlier post, the reason LSU doesn't win is becasue their coaching staff sucks at recruiting and developing QBs. As good as their defense is, their offense can never score vs quality teams. They would be right with Alabama if they had a better qb and offensive plan.
And Hoke just went against Meyer with the worst OL he will have in his tenure. The worst group of RBs, the worst set of CBs, a QB who had only been at QB for 3 weeks. The DL was mediocre and could not pressure a quarterback and the DBs were slow and awful in coverage. Give me a break. I'll take an OL that can get me 5 on the ground every play all day. Michigan has Shane Morris coming in, and regardless of what OSU FANS say, there's a reason he's a consensus top QB. Look at Tom Brady and the Patriots right now. The OL is great, but outside of Brady, there's not a ton of talent. Sure, Gronk and Hernandez are great, but they don't have the "speed" OSU fans love referencing. Brady makes them look great and they can consistently run the ball. And as for your "maybe sort of probably" the DTs will become great OGs, the likelihood is slim. Will Campbell was switched to guard while Rodriguez was coach, and was switched back by Hoke because the move was so idiotic.
I agree with what you are saying. I don't think osu is ready to blow Michigan away or anything. I actually think the two teams Are getting better vs the rest of the league. My point is that um recruiting all these OL is great but osu will also have pretty good OL play if you consider Meyers history and recruiting. He just does it differently. I don't think it's going to be an Alabama vs nd situation like some other posters seem to.
I think depth at dl is more useful than depth At OL provided you have five who can play because you usually rotate more dl than OL.
Agreed. It will be like Alabama vs. ND for the rest of the conference for OSu and Michigan. Then the final game of the season will be Bama vs. LSU in my opinion.
OL generally take longer and are harder to develop. An elite DE can come in and be very productive as a FR or RS FR. That rarely works on the OL. Hoke is doing the right thing by making OL a high priority and OSU easily might find themselves in a dangerously thin position in a couple of years if they don't get their OL recruiting on track soon.
I can't wait. The B1G is just better when OSU and UM are dominating everybody else. 2006 was the best season I can remember until that awful title game. That was a wakeup call to the whole league. "The Game" could have gone either way. We both destroyed everybody else in the league and then got waxed in our bowl games. I think this time we both have bigger goals. Both our coaches and recruiting are better. We (OSU and UM) are going to dominate the B1G and then at least compete and win our share of matchups with the nation's best. It should be a wild seven to ten years.
This post was edited by DollarYo 15 months ago
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