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Well they were both Centers so that is different
Fair point again.
Clearly its time for me to call it quits for the day! Why I was posting at 2:30 last night when I had to be in work by 7:00 is a mystery to me, but the lack of sleep now seems to be taking its toll.
Thanks to everyone on the board for their hospitality. Posting on this board was a pleasure, and I think this entire thread really developed quite nicely.
"The North shall rise again." General Meyer
Makes no sense to me why tOSU was behind the 8 ball so to speak with offering OL. Warriner was at ND so he should have known who to target along the OL.,FWIW Warriner didn't like Bosch for some reason. He offered Pocic and Elmer at a camp we had, but not Bosch. Bosch wasn't happy with this decision and deservedly so. Warriner seemed to lead him on as if he'd get an offer when he camped. I'd say Bosch had some resentment and now he's a Wolverine.
Interesting. Thanks for the insight. That's a very fair point that the knowledge regarding area OLs and some degree of relationships should already have been with Warriner. Of course, Warriner still would need to get Meyer on board with any recommendations, but the OL recruiting really should have been the focus out of the gate and fast-tracked.
I recall now you were asking a bit about Foster before. All I've really heard is that he and Zaire (who historically has been considered a near OSU lock) are friends and have discussed going to college together, but I don't think they are anywhere close to being a package deal.
There are some questions about how hard the new staff is pursuing Zaire, as well. The old staff had offered him, but the rumor is that the new staff hasn't been showing nearly as much love. We've been making a lot of QB offers so there may be some truth to the rumors. On the flip side, Zaire has discussed wrapping up the process by this summer, which would seem to be a favorable indication for OSU. The sleeper for both players could be Pitt, though. Both have been taking trips there.
It will be interesting to see how the Federal investigation of PSU impacts the decision making of Breneman and Foster, as well. There's no way this investigation and consequences to come of it are even close to finished by national signing date next year. This is a huge shoe to drop in my mind, b/c these investigations usually only are launched after the Feds have credible information that the issues they are investigating do in fact exist (usually whistle blowers), and the subjects being investigated such as beneath the table hush money payments by the Board, etc, are really damaging. This likely will be really ugly. I take no pleasure in PSU's pain b/c a lot of people such as the players, fans, students and community at large effectively are going to be punished for the wrongdoings of some relatively smaller group.
Yea, I was surprised to see tOSU offer a QB from Ohio who's name wasn't Zaire. I'd say tOSU has cooled on the kid. Interesting stuff about PSU, I'd completely forgotten they could get hammered this year likely leaving Breneman open to other schools.I was pretty surprised to see Foster schedule a visit to ND for JR day. Saw that Urbs offered Su'a Cravens today. Not use to seeing Cali kids with offers from tOSU. I think a lot more of the upper echelon Ohio kids are going to be heading out of state with Urbs going national. UM is the biggest benefactor from this, IMO. Would like to see ND hit Ohio harder, but doesn't look like we are.
I don't see much of anything happening to PSU anytime soon. The prosecution of Sandusky will get drawn out well past 2013 NSD and I don't see the NCAA getting the full access to witnesses and documents they need until after that happens and most of the civil lawsuits are settled. It's not like the NCAA normally works quickly anyway, but the prosecutors and defense lawyers for all of the parties are going to demand that the criminal investigations and charges take priority over the NCAA's interests.
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Yeah I think Urban is going to hurt himself there by not offering some of the top Ohio kids. The coaches in that state are a tight knit group and if you turn one off you turn the whole state off.
Updated. What a great OL class. Enjoy our leftovers.
The up side with taco is high, that being said, his biggest issue is hes been playing out of postion, I saw him play twice this yr. You dont put a 6'6 240lber at olb, thats where hes been playing, once he moves to ssde( which is where I see him) and he learns the finer points of being a dlineman I think he will be solid. I dont know of his motor as others have posted I put it more on being out of postion and not using his talent the right way. He has 4.8 speed add 30 pounds up to 270 and you got a perect ssde on paper.
Lord let my aim be true and my hand faster than those who seek to destroy me.If today is my day,let me die in a pile of brass
That is exactly what I thought of him the one time I saw him play. He is not college ready yet, but his potential is virtually limitless.
I think that might be wishful thinking on your part, though I'll grant again that the more national focus likely will help Michigan.
Meyer is no fool, and he hit the Ohio high school coaches circuit hard when he arrived in Columbus. Most of the staff also has Ohio roots, as well, and they've paid a lot of lip service to all things Ohio. Also, as I laid out in another post, almost all of the top, top kids in Ohio and the rest of the Midwest have OSU offers. He gets it in my mind. I think ultimately as long as he continues to do that and OSU is winning a lot, the top Ohio kids naturally are going to want to come to OSU and the coaches are going to help with the process.
Let's also look what Meyer did in Florida, where he was still able to get a lot of the top talent in the state (FSU and Miami were down at the time I'll stipulate), but then also was able to haul in the national talent, as well. I'd have to say he came out way ahead in the end. So let's say that we lose one solid Ohio kid each year because of slow-playing but pick up two national superstars in return then that seems like a more than acceptable trade-off to me.
Other top coaches have been able to pull off the same trick, as well. Pete Carroll absolutely locked down Southern California and then hauled in National guys. Saban's national recruiting hasn't hurt his standing in AL either.
I think the only real danger is if we don't win. Then the risk is that the national guys aren't going to have any interest in OSU, and we won't have shown the love to the 2nd tier guys in Ohio that we'd need to fill out the classes.
I assume that comment was directed at me. That is a OL great class all the way across the line so congratulations.
If the leftovers you are referring to are the other lineman then come on down to OSU Pocic, Bivin and Lisle!
If the leftovers are that girl in your signature then thank you I will enjoy them very much.
It looks like our two teams are essentially now going to have the opposite recruiting pitches on offense: yours will be to the skill players - "look at this line we have to protect you." Our will be to the lineman - "look at these skill players that will be around you."
I think the "Look at this line we have to protect you." is a better pitch because highly rated skill players are usually pretty selfish and if they aren't the first target for the ball or the ball isn't going to them they become unhappy. Also I think we may still recruit Pocic because we were supposed to take 6 OL last year and ended up with 4. Our depth is especially atrocious after this season. Bivin is headed to ND and possibly Lisle.
You should remove Bivins name.
Nope not directed at you.
Actually he is the next Percy Harvin!
Darn, I was hoping for the second leftovers option.
you guys are doin great recruiting the State of Ohio right now. Way to go! just one question...is this because Michigan is having a down year or do you always look to Ohio for the talent? You seem to have quite a few more Buckeyes on your team than Ohio State has Wolverines...just asking, not trying to flame out here or anything.
This is the usual. This is not a deep year in Michigan, but the elite players are too notch.
The 2012 class in Michigan was much deeper, but we have some really top talent in the top 5-6 for 2013, such as Morris, Elmer and Dawson.
Truly. Afterall we saw how it worked out for Pouncy and the other offensive lineman who Meyer put in the NFL and are successfull. Why would any potential pro lineman prospect want to play for a guy who puts lineman in the pros?
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"The only thing That Team Up North will be tasting this year is the salty tears of defeat" - UFM
Pouncey was the exception, not the rule.
Of course it is. (rolls eyes)
Because Pouncy is the only offensive lineman from a Meyer team in the pros.
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