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Yeah, I think this'll be a major factor. Many of the guys last year were committed to JoePa, and his firing and the subsequent scandal threw everything out of whack. At least the guys this year are committed to BoB, and have been from the start, so there won't be any major coaching change to mess things up. I'm hoping there won't be any flips to OSU, and I'd be willing to bet BoB sat down and had a nice long talk with every recruit about what might happen in the upcoming months/years.
That being said, I also have a hard time believing that the NCAA will take any action against PSU before NSD 2013.
Sandusky was convicted and shortly after, Dorian Johnson committed to PSU. As horrible as this crap was, most of our recruits see themselves as distanced from the situation.
The thing is, right or wrong, kids often believe sell jobs. Look at USC - they're doing alright, despite sanctions and scholarship limits. Buckeyes have a bowl ban and they're doing just fine. UNC has scholarship sanctions and kids don't seem to mind.
In fact, PSU lost Ryan Switzer to UNC. Know what he said? He commented that UNC's scholarship offers were special because they didn't have as many spots. That's one way of looking at it. Never mind the fact that at the time, UNC had offers out to twice as many prospects as PSU did. Kids buy crap like that, and even with scholarship sanctions, coaches can twist it to seem positive. Crazy, but true.
As much as I am disgusted by the PSU scandal, I do want you guys to hold onto your recruits. Just not 2014 (Ferns)
agree with that, really want him Blue
Amen. I love that OSU is already out of the running though. With the way they're hyping 2014 already, it'll be a big Bucknut disappointment if OSU doesn't land McMillan, Booker, and Garrett, at the very least.
makes me smile anytime a top Ohio kid they want goes elsewhere, courtney love comitting to Nebraska when they thought he was a lock made me
Nailed it with this point. I laugh at sanctions when it comes to recruiting. The bowl-bans don't affect recruiting at all and limited scholarships just allow programs to sell exclusivity because joining a smaller class is somehow special to recruits. Gives them an advantage, in a way.
Yeah, as much as we make fun of them for OLs, OSU has also whiffed on all its top LB prospects: Gedeon, Anzalone, Jaylon Smith, Love, Tim Kimbrough...
yea urbs is goin all RR and gettin some good but unbalanced talent, if they don't really pick it up they are going to be hurting at several positions
Missing on Smith was huge. His brother plays at OSU and to lose him to ND, a program that has not had a decent defense in 20 years, must drive them crazy.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
Disappointment? Those are three of top 10 LB in the country next year. Getting one of them would be nice. Two would be outstanding. Three would be unheard of. There is a small chance we pull McMillan from Georgia. Booker would be the biggest hit if we couldn't get him. Garrett would hurt a little too because apparently he is close with Mike Vrabel.
And whomever said we missed on Kimbrough. Seriously? We never offered him a scholarship, told him he was low on our board and somehow that's a whiff. That is a tad delusional.
I honestly don't think you can call it a whiff if you never think you can get a recruit. Anzalone sure that's a miss (I'm not sure what you call that actually). Pocic that's a big miss. Courtney Love was a miss. But to say someone like Smith is a whiff. The kid didn't even want to go to the same high school as his brother Rod, why would we ever think he'd want to go to the same college. Ohio State never really had a chance. Sure Ohio State has missed on some prospects they wanted, but honestly who doesn't? ... except USC.
"Playing here is the closest thing to heaven on earth..." - Brian Rolle
it's cute that you actually believe that
All you have to do is read the early threads on Bucknuts and other OSU boards regarding Jaylon Smith. Not only did you guys desperately want him, you thought he was a near lock. That slowly changed to a competition with ND for him (which most OSU fans expected to win) and then finally to acceptance you weren't going to get him. Saying now that you never wanted or expected to land him is just silly.
This post was edited by MrWoodson 21 months ago
HAH! Alright, I'm going to dismantle you slowly, efficiently, and completely.
In addressing my first point over the 2014 LBs. While you may have a more realistic perspective over those kids, that's a far cry from the posters in this thread:
FFS, look at this comment in response to "Who's the first 2014 commit?": "Clifton Garret! LB out of Ill. I would like to see Raekwon McMillian and Booker soon there after."
Next, missing on Kimbrough. You brought up offers - you really shouldn't have done that. Here's a list of every linebacker you've offered for 2013, and where they're committed:
Jaylon Smith - Notre Dame
Alex Anzalone - Notre Dame
Dorian O'Daniel - Clemson
Matt Rolin - South Carolina
Mike McCray - Michigan
Deon Hollins Jr. - UCLA
Ben Gedeon - Michigan
Peter Kalambayi - Stanford
Courtney Love - Nebraska
Yannick Ngakoue - Maryland
So right now, you've whiffed on EVERY SINGLE ONE of the LBs you've offered.
Back to Kimbrough - you never offered him, so clearly that indicates your interest, right? Well guess what - the entirety of Bucknuts is going ape over Mike Mitchell, but you haven't offered him yet either. I guess that means you're not interested in Mitchell?
On top of that, here's not 1, not 2, but 3 threads talking about wanting Kimbrough.
Finally, on the topic of Jaylon Smith, here's a thread from Bucknuts entitled "Jaylon Smith should be our #1 target". Boy, it sure sounds like a lot of people thought he had a very, very good chance of going to OSU...
Go back to Bucknuts.
Who will be the first recruit to commit to the buckeyes 2014 class??
Whats the deal no scholarship yet? NO. 3 ILB are we gonna pass on him?
Was considered an OSU lock last week, but after recent developments this isnt a surprise. And yes, Urban really wanted him. Good get for Ne
Coach Meyer will get the players we need. Coach Meyer is a great recruiter. There is many fish in the sea. All i have to say we will be a te
Few mins. of video of this kid Jaylon Smith reminds me of Lawrence Taylor, a MUST GET FOR 2013.
This post was edited by CMXI 21 months ago
Poor guy... Not one of his points was right..
great writeup, send the bucknut home
CMXI should have waaay more than just 2 upvotes for that post.
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Also, CMXI, you would have a lot more ammunition if you could read some of those VIP posts on the Front Row - they're hilarious.
your right +1 to cmxi's outstanding post
I will remember to upvote this when I get some more!
Yeah, I figure the VIP posts are equally ridiculous (if not more so), but what can I say - I enjoy owning Bucknuts in a manner easily accessible to everyone on 247.
Not to stand up for a bucknut or anything but i'm going to try and be the voice of reason. This post would deservedly get trashed if it was on an OSU board. First as for 2014 LBs at least two of those guys OSU seems to be the early leader for. That in itself would make for a very nice LB class and would help them erase alot of their 2013 LB recruiting problems. I'll waint until after they miss on them before trashing them for it. As for missing on Kimbrough, you make the common mistake of assuming that because the fans want someone the coach must want him too. Fan discussion of wanting someone doesn't matter at all if the coaches never offer. I think one of the big discussions earlier in the year for bucknuts was whether the coaches were going to offer or not. This would be akin to bucknuts claiming we whiffed on Berkley Edwards since he gets mentioned alot. And yes I would say that if they haven't offered Mitchell yet then they are not all that interested, despite what fans may be excited about. As for Smith, yeah i'm sure they wanted him, we wanted him too. They had a better chance and they whiffed, though the writing had been on the wall for few months at least.
So yes you are right, their LB recruiting sucks this year and I don't think many would disagree. But otherwise you will forgive me if I don't really agree with your post.
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