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Who would make your list? Why?
1. Charles Woodson- really loved his game in college he was a true shutdown corner.
2. Braylon Edwards- He was a monster at WR and really could take a game over at any time.
3. Desmond Howard- He was a great player could really hurt a team on offense or in the return game.
4. Denard Robinson- Denard is one of if not the most explosive player Michigan has ever seen and I don't know if Michigan will see another Denard Robinson for some time.
5. Tom Harmon- He is just one of the All time greats at Michigan.
This post was edited by HelloHeisman 21 21 months ago
Woodson... no explanation needed.
Desmond Howard: probably no explanation needed.
Braylon Edwards: Most career receiving yards, receptions, and touchdowns. Most receptions in a season and yards in a season. Most career/season 100+ yard games. And the dude single handedly gave us one of the greatest comebacks ever at home against Michigan State (which answers my question in your other thread).
Tom Harmon: How many Heisman trophy winners also got Purple Hearts and Silver Stars in the military? And how many of those got shot down over enemy territory, bailed out of their plane, survived, and kept part of the freaking parachute which ended up becoming a part of his wife's wedding dress?
Bennie Oosterbaan: All American football and basketball player. and All Conference baseball player. Then he decided to not play pro sports, but instead stay on as a coach at Michigan. His first season as the head football coach only resulted in a national championship. Plus, he's got a sweet last name that sounds great on athletic facilities ("Oosterbaan Fieldhouse").
4. Anthony Carter
5. Bennie Oosterbaan.
Harmon and Oosterbaan DOMINATED in their time...and I mean nationally. Carter was the first big time player of the modern era. Desmond and Woodson are Heisman winners, so no argument there...Woodson on top being the first defensive Heisman winner and winning a National Championship.
Who I saw play,
1. Woodson, That man was amazing.
2. Hart, Not the fastest, not the quickest, not the shiftiest, but with his low center of gravity he was bounced off of tackle after tackle, when healthy.
3. Edwards, He just took over games. That 2004 MSU game was one of the greatest performances I have ever watched.
4. Howard, 18 TDs and a Heisman speaks for itself.
5. Wheatley, Man among boys.
So many great players have come thru the program that this is so hard to choose from, but Based on the modern era I would say
1. Woodson, No explanation needed. "Chuck" is the man.
2. Tom Brady, No explanation needed. I don't care that his career was limited by the Henson issue, had Brady started that whole season I think Michigan would have been playing for a national title. He was a stud in college anybody that saw him play knew that. His NFL career only confirmed this.
3. Jake Long, Best linemen to ever come through the program.
3. Anthony Carter, He's still the gold standard that all wideouts have to live up to once they sign on to play at Michigan
4. Desmond Howard, No explanation needed
5.Braylon Edwards, I thought he should have been up for the heisman as a senior. Dominate game changer.
Honorable mention: Jim Harbaugh, Steve Hutchinson, Wheatley, Rich Leach, Hart, Ty Law, Terrell, Henson(Still the most physically gifted qb to ever come thru Michigan, had he continued playing football in college the sky was the limit)
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TheDudeAbides21 21 months ago
This is a great topic.
Messner was my favorite growing up. He always came up with the big sack when we needed it.
This post was edited by Amazinglyblue78 21 months ago
1. Carter. 24% of his catches were TDs. Top 3 in catches and yards( I believe) despite playing when we only ran the ball.
The thing about Charles that yr and I had to bite my tongue on a UT site was he beat out a very deserving Peyton Mnning. They were mocking Woodsons numbers that yr saying he was no better , numbers wise than some other top dbs that yr. The thing they didn't realize and won't show up anywhere unless u saw it.....the opposing teams refused to throw his way, unless all check downs were made and then he made them pay. It was laughable, they never went after him
top 5 I saw in Person in no particular order...
This. He absolutely dominated. Complete obliteration. You couldn't even throw it out of bounds near him.
The best interception by the best college football player.
I remember watching that play live, and I had an out of body experience because I couldnt believe what I just saw....I just sat their shocked with my eyes wide open waiting to see the replay to make sure I saw what I just saw....then i stood up and was going crazy with the others in the room.....we just watched something that was impossible
In answering this question, are we supposed to give primary weight to their careers at Michigan, their career in the NFL, or weight both equally? Like Brady is the GOAT QB imo, but he really didn't do all that much at UM; conversely, someone like Chris Perry was a total stud here but did 0.0s in the pros.
In any event,
1. Charles Woodson
Sorry for the confusion. I was just referring to their career at Michigan, so nothing before or after that would be taken into account in this thread.
That truly was a spectacular play. As the announcer said, you could watch football a long time without ever seeing a play like that again. IMO, that was his "signature moment" in terms of winning the Heisman.
Great point here. There are some positions in football where stats can be extremely deceiving, and corner is definitely one of them. With a guy like Woodson, they obviously didn't tell the whole story.
I am always amazed that people say he didn't do much at Michigan.
He was 20-5 as a starter.
Big Ten Champion his first year starting
Won a BCS Bowl vs Alabama
Set Michigan records for most attempts and completions his first season as a starter.
And I believe he was 3rd on Michigan all-time passing yards list when he graduated.
meh. 20-5 is obviously good, but that's only slightly better than our all-time mark (.800 to .735). Fairly unimpressed by Michigan passing records, we've never had QBs that lit the world on fire statistically, and "attempts" and "completions" are particularly weak records to have. Definitely give him credit for winning the B1G and both his bowl games (esp the one vs. Alabama, won't ever forget that game), but at the same time he couldn't keep Drew Henson off the field.
I mean, Brady had a very solid career at UM, one that anyone should/would be proud of, but there was definitely a reason Brady went in the 6th round and it wasn't just because he showed up at the Combine with a flabby chest.
Was not his fault though... Carr made promises to Henson to get him to come to Michigan and that included playing time(Henson was extremely gifted). You clearly were not following Michigan football back then... Brady was the BEST QB ON THAT TEAM AND THE LEADER OF THAT TEAM,. I still contend had he started that whole season Michigan would have played for a national title, regardless he capped off his career as a Wolverine in sensational fashion by going 34-46 for 367 passing yards and 4 touchdowns in the Orange Bowl against Bama. He went in the 6th round because he didn't have the "right mesurables", what they overlooked was the intangiables. He always had it and I scoff at anybody who says otherwise, anybody who watched him as a Wolverine knew the kid could ball. Could anybody have predicted he would have become this good? No, and how could you he is the arguably the greatest NFL qb of the super bowl era. I thought he would be a good NFL qb.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by TheDudeAbides21 21 months ago
1. Charles Woodson - Straight Playmaker
2. Denard Robinson - Highlight Reel
3. Mario Manningham - Unstoppable
4. Chad Henne - Most Clutch
5. Chris Perry - No Joke best all around Back to come thru UM IMO
"Those Who Stay...Will be Champions"
I recommend watching the Brady 6 to those who haven't. It covers the entire Brady and Henson situation.
I agree with 1. 2 thru 5 are interesting to say the least.
Denard has alot to prove before he even gets a seat at the table imo. He will have his chance this year to right his legacy as a Wolverine.
I mean...I was 11, living in Ann Arbor, and at the absolute peak of my "idolizing sports figures" stage of life when Brady had his Orange Bowl against Alabama...trust me, I was following.
The fact remains that from an objective standpoint (and sorry, but that doesn't include "had he started that whole season Michigan would have played for a national title") Brady had a very solid but ultimately unspectacular career at Michigan. You'd never put him anywhere near the top 5 or 10 Michigan players of all time based on his college resume alone.
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