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Totally missing the point. If this were a discussion of whether or not Meyer was handling punishments well, I'd have listed the punishments in the OP. This is a discussion of why so many OSU players are getting arrested/involved in legal troubles.
If Hyde is guilty, he should be kick off of the team. He should also have been convicted for assault on the last drive during The Game last year.
That is funny.
Najee Murray Dismissed from Ohio for violation of team rules. Problem is nobody knows what the rules are.
One rule seems clear: 3* will be dismissed.
This post was edited by bmarcum1970 8 months ago
One rule seems clear: 3* will be dismissed.
D. Clarke had started early in his career, but Roby passed him on the depth chart. He was still a very good player and he was dismissed.
Gambrell, Pittman and Perkins were 4 stars.
Only Gardner and Murray were 3 stars and they were promising young players.
I thought the little retard sign they had posted outside their locker room was quite clear and inspirational. My guess is he wasn't willing to be dishonest about his 40 time. Because clearly this sign is telling us it's okay to hit women once you interpret it.
C'mon. This post is silly.
Dominic Clarke and DerJuan Gambrell were middling prospects from the prior coaching staff that had little-to-no chance of seeing any significant time on the field. Clarke didn't even start for Illinois State last year after transferring.
Only Pittman and Perkins had recruiting profiles that would inspire excitement amongst the bucknutters.
EDIT: And Perkins transferred. He wasn't released or otherwise disciplined.
This post was edited by bkp1883 8 months ago
And your point is? Not every player that breaks rules and is dismissed is going to be a 4/5 star guy.
Tim May @TIM_MAYsports 25m
OSU spokesman said today no one has left/been dismissed from team, regards to DB Najee Murray. Insiders say there are issues there, though.
The incredibly obvious point here is that so far only rapists and noncontributors get dismissed.
Perkins' transfer was like allowing someone to resign rather than firing them. The kid had issues already at OSU, and he was "encouraged" to transfer.
Perkins had issues in high school. ND dropped him for a reason while he was committed to them.
And he was one of the few recruits we legitimately passed on, for legitimate reasons. We could have gotten him if we wanted.
That is correct
I don't know a whole lot about the Perkins saga. I do know that he was on his way out the door long before that arrest in Bowling Green.
That's kinda my point, there wasn't a situation involving Perkins where Urban would have been required to hand down discipline.
Clarke got a lot of PT very early while he was with Buckeyes. He then began to make some bad and very strange decisions and was shown the door. He was very athletic and sans character issues could have contributed at Ohio State. He was in trouble multiple times. His dismissal was warranted. In fact, every kid that has been dismissed by Meyer was deserving. There is no basis to the assertion that Meyer has dismissed players just to clear space. If that were the case, there are quite a few others on the roster that would have been ran off by now. Those guys don't have character issues or rap sheets. They get to stay.
Perkins was forced out because he does have character issues. He was allowed to transfer rather than be dismissed. Before that happened, he went afoul of the law.
I don't know the facts in the Murray case and neither do you. So, saying that he was dismissed because he doesn't have talent is speculation, based on nothing. You hope that this is the case. That doesn't make it true.
This is Dave Biddle's post about Najee Murray:
"Duane's point was how is it any different than cutting kids? Little kids. 8-year-old kids from select baseball or basketball teams. We can cut 8-year-old kids, but not 20-year-old grown men.
You say "This isn't pro ball..." in reference to Ohio State. Well, Little League baseball isn't pro ball either. Kids get cut. But 18-21-year-old men can't? Scholarships are a year-to-year agreement. No one is saying you have to be an All-American or Heisman candidate or you're going to get cut. But if you're not getting better, if you're being surpassed by younger players and THEN you are caught doing something stupid during camp when there's a zero tolerance policy in effect, there's a chance you're going to get cut and I have no problem with that.
Would Braxton, Roby and some of the other stars play by the same rules as a third-string corner like Najee Murray? No. Guess what, welcome to the real world.
This post was edited by Dave Biddle on 8/10/2013 at 4:09 PM"
Setting aside the hilarious justification for SEC-style roster management tactics, isn't Ohio State supposed to be giving out 4-year scholarships now? Isn't that bolded sentence just flat-out wrong?
The charge is that Urban Meyer disciplines his players with a high degree of regard for how it will effect his team. Players unlikely to be big-time contributers are dismissed for slight transgressions when scholarships are tight. Contributors are given slaps on the wrist for similar or worse crimes.
Storm Klein was a senior (his dismissal wouldn't effect future scholarship numbers) who had seen the field often and OSU had very light linebacker depth.
DerJuan Gambrell was a RS Freshman who was unlikely to ever see the field.
Storm Klein got a two game suspension for being arrested for domestic violence related assault charges. Gambrell got dismissed for the same thing.
Hell look at what we know Roby and Hyde did and consider that Timothy Gardner got dismissed from the team for "obstruction of official police buisiness". No consistency.
For laughs, google "Meyer Shows Consistency"
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