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It's pointing out that he didn't make the NBA.
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Eh, true. I mistook the first Sparty to comment in this thread as you. Can't blame me though, you both are completely obsessed about everything UM. Alarming resemblance between the two of you, IMO.
My second statement is still true though. I'm not sure you know what "making fun of" means.
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 12 months ago
I don't get it with them honestly. The people I know from high school that go to MSU don't seem nearly as butthurt all the time but when you get on the internet, all of them display a massive inferiority complex. They're worse than OSU fans.
I'm glad too!
He has a winning record against State. And Michigan did something in these last 3 years that State hasn't been able to do - reach the Final Four.
For sure. His class and on has accomplished more than the MSU counterparts. I love seeing the upvotes.
What's funny is that MSU fans seem pretty confident that next year will be their big run through the tournament. Unless Gary Harris steps up I just don't think they have the horses to win it all. And making the final four is an uphill battle as well imo.
Agreed, I grew up in Ohio so the majority of my friends are huge buckeye fans. They have their moments but we always had fun with the rivalry. I get on here, go over to bucknuts and it amazes me how much hate they have for anything Michigan. It's like we hooked up with every one of their girlfriends.
This post was edited by LEXwolverine1 12 months ago
I find absolutely hilarious that teams such as MSU and Ohio believe Michigan is going to suck at basketball again. Lol if McGary and GR3 come back (which I believe they most likely will) you have them Walton, Irvin, LeVert, Stauskas, Albericht, Morgan (I believe he is coming back). This team is going nowhere. They will be top 3 in B1G and top 5 in the overall. But that's fine let them think that and they will look stupid when we beat them a both twice this year. Go blue!
P.s. good luck Timmy you will e missed and thank you for everything!
Izzo's famous "every 4 year player has experienced at least 1 final four" recruiting line is in jeopardy.
Keith Appling and Adreian Payne will be seniors next year.
However, I think State will have a very good (bordering on great team).
PG: Appling (senior) / Trice (junior)
SG: Harris (sophomore)
SF: Dawson (junior) / Valentine (sophomore)
PF: Matt Costello (sophomore) / Schilling (freshman)
C: Payne (senior)
I see a very good team but it has some flaws. For instance, the PF position will be a weakness imo. Also, there's no one to back-up Harris.
We'll see how Izzo manages the lack of experienced depth.
MSU board is full of idiots.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
Hey, there's an idea.
Everything hinges on Payne coming back for them, and I believe he will. Solid guards and solid post play.
I think that they'll have best team in the B1G, but I have questions about whether there will be enough improvement by the young guys on the team to take them to the next level. If guys like Valentine and Harris (Harris already has in a sense, but he needs to average at least 15 a game next year imo) really step up then they could easily be a 1 seed and make the final four. However, if the young guys don't step up then I don't think you can count on Dawson, Appling, and Payne to carry this team by themselves. They've already proven that they can't get it done by themselves.
This post was edited by hownowbrowncow 12 months ago
MSU basketball will be very good next year. Michigan .... Depends in who comes back and how fast the incoming Frosh step up.
If Glenn and Mitch come back, I think we will match-up really well with State and we will contend for a B1G Championship.
Our biggest question mark is the PG position but I feel strongly about Derrick Walton. He has been repeatedly described as a true point guard who excels at creating for his teammates and running a team's offense. Given the wealth of talent (i.e. shooters/scorers) we'll have, Walton seems to be the ideal type of PG. Also, I think Albrecht opened a lot of eyes with his performances in the NCAAT. He gained a lot of experience and confidence.
While some may think that Hardaway Jr. is another big loss, I think a sophomore Stauskas, a sophomore Caris Levert, and a freshman Zak Irvin will be able to compensate for Hardaway's early departure. I expect the first two to improve significantly.
But I think the player that will make our team really dynamic is Mark Donnal (as a stretch 4). Just his presence on the court should be able to change how teams defend us. While I don't expect Donnal to be Ryan Kelly-esque, I think Donnal can have a similar impact (but to a lesser degree).
In short, I'm really excited about next year's team.
Btw, I think people are underselling Ohio a bit. (But more on this later.)
On paper, MSU looks like the best B1G team heading into next season (assuming Harris & Payne return). However, there are some massive concerns with their team. The main one is how they are going to work their starting lineup. They have 4 good and experienced players, but they really don't have that 5th guy. Izzo's strategy has almost always been to go big and beat teams with physical play and rebounding. The problem is that they only have 1 established big man to work with next year. And for those arguing Costello, he would not start on the majority of B1G teams so if that's the answer, that spot is in trouble.
Along with this, how does Payne work at the 5 spot? He's not going to get those same outside looks as he did this year and won't get the opportunity to face a lot of overmatched power forwards and 4s. Being the guy down low is a much different role from the one he played this year. Following that, what if MSU decides to use him as their only big man? Personally, I think this is their best lineup, but will Izzo go small and if he does, how does Appling fit into that system? And who comes off the bench for their backcourt if they go to a smaller lineup? The thing for me is that they have 4 really good guys, but not enough outside of that.
So nonetheless, I think MSU has some major question marks. They have enough players to be a good team, but deep in the season, good teams are going to be able to expose these flaws unless somebody really improves during the offseason. In fact, if Michigan gets McGary and GR3 back, they probably have a better roster fit for a starting lineup than MSU will have next year. Not saying they will be better, but McGary, GR3, Stauskas, LeVert/Irvin, and Walton is solid with Morgan, Horford, Spike, and LeVert/Irvin coming off the bench. Both should be good teams next season, but I just don't buy into the immediate hype of MSU. I think it will drop down once people start breaking down their lineup.
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The improvement Tim made from his sophomore to junior year was remarkable. He seemed to mature a lot in that year and really honed in on the mechanics of that jump shot. I'll never forget that 2nd half he had vs OSU. I think he absolutely made the right decision in going pro this year. Best of luck man you were a great Wolverine!
at Sparty. Good luck, Timmy. Thanks for 3 years!
Back to your obese mother's basement
Appling and Trice are an awful PG tandem. Dawson is a stiff as well
Costello would ride our bench. The fact he won Mr. Basketball shows the politics involved.
And Valentine hasn't done much. Other than Payne and china doll Harris they really don't have much.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Aces High 12 months ago
Good luck to THJ. Not sure he is ready but what do I know?
And yet that team beat us (the eventual national runner-up) by 23. Did you forget that State was leading by 31 at one point in the second half?
Also, it took two excellent defensive plays in the final minute by our National Player of the Year to win on our home court.
Don't be blinded by fandom.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Frank C 12 months ago
This made me laugh out loud.
MSU fans will tell you the same thing . Also, your post sounds like something I would find on tRCMB. Who cares how many points you win by? It's still a win.
YOUR post reads like something on tRCMB (which has a history of downplaying the achievements of its rivals - specifically our achievements).
You essentially dismissed a team that made the Sweet 16, finished ahead of us in the Big Ten regular season, and went further than us in the Big Ten Tournament. And that same team returns most of its contributors for next season.
On the flip side, my post gives State credit and acknowledges next season's Spartans as a (flawed) Final Four contender.
Try to be fair and accurate.
Re: Margin of victory with respect to venue
You're showing your ignorance. Pretty much every reputable metric uses it to judge a team's performances over the course of the season.
I'd love to see you debate otherwise against the likes of Ken Pomeroy on this topic.
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