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Here's Alabama's starting OL this year:
Kouandijo, 6'6", 310
Warmack, 6'3", 320
Jones, 6'5", 302
Steen, 6'3", 303
Fluker, 6'6", 335
Average: 6'4.6", 314
Here's our recruiting class:
Tuley-Tillman, 6'7", 300
Bosch, 6'5", 305
Kugler, 6'4", 270
Dawson, 6'4", 280
Fox, 6'6", 300
Samuelson, 6'5", 290
Average: 6'5.2", 291.
As you can see our OLs are tall, with big frames that can easily take more good weight. Everyone has said Bosch is the most college-ready OL in this class, and you can see why, at 6'5" 305. Since we finally have enough depth to redshirt the vast majority of our incoming OL classes, our linemen will just be even bigger and stronger when they first see the field.
I have to give Brady Hoke endless amounts of credit. He has said repeatedly that he wants to return Michigan to its smashmouth, manball roots, and putting up this OL in front of Deveon Smith (and potentially Derrick Green) is pretty much the definition of manball. The B1G should be terrified of the future of Michigan's rushing attack.
Be afraid, be very afraid.
Plus, we have (at their incoming weights, not updated):
RS FR Ben Braden (6'6 308)
RS FR Kyle Kalis (6'5 300)
RS FR Erik Magnuson (6'6 290)
RS FR Blake Bars (6'5 291)
RS SO Chris Bryant (6'4 318)
The more top rated OL you have, the more likely that OL (which are very hard to extrapolate into the college game) will work out. That is how Alabama and LSU have done it for years. Hoke is playing by the same playbook.
I am sure going forward we will have 16 or so OL on scholarship all the time. Just wondering...how many will we have, assuming the 2013 class stays as is?
14 on scholarship I think.
This post was edited by A2Wolverines 18 months ago
Helluva start if you ask me. I remember Fluker in recruiting and could not believe how well he could move for his size.
This only works if the staff selects the right recruits and develop them properly. Might well happen, but you don't get a Bama O-Line just from recruiting tall O-Linemen.
Warmack was a three star and turned into an absolute stud. I know Flucker and Jones get most of the pub but I would love to have several players of Warmacks caliber. Dude is a beast. Love going back to the ground and pound style of play.
What you eat, don't make me shit.
I think Barrett Jones is equally impressive if not more so.
To win a National Championship as a starting RG in one season, as a starting LT in one season, and as a starting C in one season demonstrates incredible versatility and leadership.
* * * N E O . R E T R O * * *
I look forward to seeing Michigan push the rest of the Big Ten all over the field. Great we have a coach that understands the line is where it starts.
Has to make one wonder what Ohio is doing. So far they only have one OG, one OT and one TE. 2 four stars and one 3 star. This is the mind set of a spread offense HC. All about speed. Guess we shall see in a couple of years as Ohio had beasts on the line for years just like Michigan but now it seems good ol Meyer is going in the other direction. Lots of skilled players but the lines are not getting filled. The next couple of weeks should be interesting. I still hope for one more lineman but on the defensive side. I want Michigan to have dominating lines. That is how games are won.
That is why we have 6 defensive linemen.
Mciael Hill DT
Tyquan Lewis WDE
Tracy Sprinkle SDE
Joey Bosa SDE
Donovan Munger DT
Billy Price DT
We will not be pushed anywhere.
Someone wanna bring up the competition between DD and price? One of the worst mismatches ever in 1-on-1 line drills. He'll easily be able to push him around his whole life.
Agree Barrett is a great player and very versatile. Chance was IMO the most dominant lineman on their line. Kids a true mauler. Would love to have either. If you where to ask me which I would rather have though, I'd take five Warmacks..
This post was edited by Daddyphatsax 18 months ago
I know. Im worried sick
Price is going to be an OL is the word from Browneye fans
Don't stress yourself out about it, it'll happen soon enough.
If you look at the line matchups:
Michigan OL is superior, even an ohio homer can't say it's less than equal to ohio's DL.
How do you see ohio's OL matching up against Michigan's DL? Because I see that being an obvious Michigan advantage as well.
Michigan will be Stanford to ohio's Oregon. Or similar to Bama vs Urb Florida. Both will be great teams, but I love the way our team is being built.
According to what he said during the National Championship UFM thinks loading up the D is the key to success. Pointed out the thing ALL these sec National Champions(or National Champions in general)have in commom are fast, explosive defenses.
Not too familiar with recruiting OL for the spread offense yet but i know they like the class they brought in last year which was 4 i believe. And i believe theyre going for 1 more this year and putting an emphasis on it in next years class where we "supposedly" sit nicely with alot of OL with very impressive offer lists. Ive never cared too much about OL recruiting bc they are the hardest to predict from HS to college but thats what ive read
On another note, i believe you guys will beat us today. I just hope it isnt like that Illinois game bc ive never seen worse offensive basketball in my life
I think youre putting a little too much hope into your OL. Theyre not going to all pan out like you think. They never do(Brew Crew included). Schutt, Spence and Washington already proved they can play. What OL or DL of yours from last years class has done so? Decker played well when he was in and will be a solid RT this year.
No doubt Hoke is doing a good job recruiting but in no way am i going to question what a 2 time National Champ coach is doing. I dont understand why alot of you are doubting UFM so much
This Browneye fan agrees with what you say
That's exactly the point, Michigan has 11 kids the last 2 classes on the OL. If half of them pan out they have a tremendous OL. ohio has recruited what, 6 OL the last 2 classes and not nearly as highly rated?
Spence and Washington are tough, I didn't see anything from Schutt but I don't watch every game. All we have to go on is what the coaches say in practice about our young OL, and they're thrilled. We'll get to see this year so we won't have to wait long, they'll be young but from all accounts very talented.
In my post I didn't doubt anybody, I compared urbs team to Oregon and his own UF team. Just said Michigan was playing the role of Stanford and Alabama (not saying urb ohio or Hokes Michigan team is as talented as UF & Bama).
True...but the point is, was there a defense that really could stop the Alabama OL? Not from evidence. Texas A&M won more because Bama's defense faltered.
So what you are saying is true, but is a little simplistic too.
For example, even projecting forward, I am not sure the OSU DL would have been able to be able to stop this year's Bama OL.
To add to this, Mattison is a MUCH better DC than Fickell. UM has the advantage over OSU with defense as long as Mattison is here.
This post was edited by TAMUWolverine 18 months ago
Michigan just had a Top 10 defense with average talent. The defense is going to be a major strength for Michigan as long as Mattison is there.
Sure sounds to me like you're doubting UFM. I believe OL can be coached to do very well as a group despite having elite talent and we have an excellent OL coach. So im not worried in the least bit about how many OL UFM has brought in. It's same as what you guys say about Mattison having a top D without an abundance of talent
If it was in reverse, both sets of fans would argue in the reverse, too. People just repping their set.
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