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It's because you guys don't want to accept the fact that Lewan owned Gholston and are making up excuses why your poster child wasn't able to get by Lewan.
Because we don't live in the 1800s.
Wow, I didn't think you would make the foolish claim that Lewan was holding on for dear life, but I was wrong. Gholston showed his frustration at being dominated that day with his punches and personal fouls, we see, the refs saw it, the B1G saw it, and he had to miss a game because of it.
Running away from Gholston? Well, based on you and your fellow spartan fans belief that Lewan was holding on for dear life, this theory of yours about running away from Gholston is hilarious.
Are you a proponent of "holding on for dear life" also?
Because the backstory puts it into perspective.
On the subject, Michigan fans will see it one way and msu will see it the other. All I know is they won the game and I'm annoyed by it.
There is a clip in the OP. I wonder how many running plays went right at Gholston.
This post was edited by NigelUno 22 months ago
I believe Miller has moved back to WR
I have read it. I stand by my post that the Spartans are wearing green colored glasses.
Maybe Gholston was frustrated because Lewan is dirty & run his mouth (other teams contacted the Big 10 with film on Lewan after Pizza Boy started his crusade) & because on the Punch play Will had his was on the ground being held by the facemask after the whistle.
If you want to claim Gholston got owned - fine by me. But what does that say about the rest of your offense & coaching?
I know its been a while since you guys have won a game against MSU, but what would UM fans have said if MSU fans had tried to claim some moral victory in a 1 on 1 match up during one of the years that you handed it to MSU?
For example, In the 2011 UM v MSU Bball game at Chrysler, Kalin Lucas owned Darius Moriss & scored nearly twice as many points (does't really make me feel any better b/c somehow we lost twice to your scrub team)
Maybe it's the fact that we keep hearing how Gholston has the Michigan game circled and is going to destroy Michigan this year. Doesn't look like it if he lines up against Lewan.
I watched it, did you? I didn't see Michigan running away from Gholston over and over again. Did you see running plays avoiding Gholston over and over?
Are you a member of the hang on for dear life club also?
Lewan ran his mouth? Tom punched punched Lewan, pulled on Denards facemask, arm whipped Lewan, because he was getting dominated and he lashed out like a child.
Nobody is claiming anything else, the discussion is about the matchup between Lewan and Gholston. Try and follow along.
I watched it. I'll defer to you though (I certainly don't want to be accused of looking at it through green glasses). How many running plays went right at Gholston?
I didn't see any running plays avoiding Gholston. Did you see Michigan avoiding Gholston?
How many running plays went right at Gholston?
Well, then Borges really isn't good at making in-game adjustments. If an OT is completely erasing a DE play after play, what offense wouldn't take advantage of that? Either that, or the UM coaches weren't seeing the same things that you guys are.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
"Another observation from tRCMB is that many plays were run away from Lewan."
I didn't see this, did you?
It was by far Borges's worst game of the year.
Of course, holding on for dear life and all.
MIller moved back to wideout again.. not sure what to make of Miller anymore hopefully the light comes on for him eventually. Moore really only saw the first action of his career just last year... he seems like an average d 1 tight end decent at everything but does not really excel in any particular category . He played sporadically in goal line situations last year and only caught 1 pass. Coaches seem to like the walk on Mike Kwiatkowski... So it will be interesting too see how this tight end situation plays out in the fall. If there not happy with the way the position progresses during fall camp I would assume they would probably de-emphasize the tight end position for this season.
I have asked you the same question 3 times now.
I won't bother asking again. Have a nice night.
Ditto, have a good one Nigel.
I didn't see a single play, either a run or a roll-out, run towards Gholston on those snaps. On the first one, the RB looks to be heading towards the left and then cuts back (I believe that was Smith's biggest run of the day). After that, there are either roll-outs away from Gholston, quick drops, or runs to the opposite side. I've only watched the whole thing through a couple of times, so I could be off here; feel free to point out a time on the video where I would see a play ran in the direction of Gholston.
Another observation from tRCMB is that many plays were run away from Lewan."
Watching that video, I didn't see them running away from Gholston over and over. Did you see that?
The problem with this whole discussion is that the clip doesn't show very many plays. If it does show every play where Lewan and Gholston matched up, then that particular match up didn't have much of an impact on the game. I would guess that Gholston will be moved around even more this year. I would also guess that MSU will (try to) force DRob to throw and not to let him run around. Part of that defense emphasizes that DEs not bull rush every time, but stand their ground (more or less) and let LB's make tackles. The scheme worked very well last year.
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