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Denard will be a better passer this year, the question is by how much. If he is only marginally better, then I think UM will play well at home with 0 or 1 loss and have some struggles on the road with 2-3 losses (not counting Bama). If, however, Denard can take a significant stride, UM could have a really solid season. Still 0 or 1 loss at home (simply b/c I don't think any one player will dictate UM-MSU), and still losing to Alabama, but with a legit chance to sneak the games from OSU and Nebraska, and definitely from ND.
f UM gets crazy lucky and stuns Alabama, I really hate to say it, but look out. Give this team some arrogance and a few lucky bounces, and you could have a damn hot team. I just also think that it's possible that UM slides the other way too. I guess I view 8-4 or 9-3 as the most likely, with 10-2 a close second. Then I view 11-1 and 7-5 as equally likely. For the record, I think MSU is very much in the same boat, in that Maxwell's progression very well could be the difference between 7-5 or 11-1 ourselves. While I view MSU as a better team, I can't say for certain that it isn't because I'm biased. One thing is for damn sure either way, I cannot wait for 10/20, it's going to be one hell of a game.
Wow...that is a fantastically honest assessment.
I know, right?
I'm going to go out on a limb too.
UM and MSU will both finish somewhere between 11-1 and 7-5.
Um will 8-4 or 9-3. After this year they should start getting much better. Lots of freshman will play this year.
State has more depth but they never put it all together. I'm not sold on their qb and you absolutely cannot replace all those receivers but that defense should be top three in the country.let's how well they play against boise.
Not a problem.
Cunningham, Martin, and Linthicum were 3 stars.
Arnett, Burbridge, and Sims are 4 stars.
Uh yeah, I meant for this year.
Burbridge is the best looking receiver I've seen in a ling time. I just don't expect him to replace everything those seniors brought to the table.
I know arnett started every game for Tennessee but he didn't look that fast or imposing in the spring game
Burbridge gonna qualify? Last I heard was not likely.
Go Blue & Gig Em'!
And since when do stars matter for state fans.
When Michigan dominates "star rankings" the last two years you guys say it doesn't matter, coach dantonio coaches our two and three stars up. But now that it matters for an argument for you, stars are everything?
Awhile ago it didn't look promising, but recently it would seem that he is very close, and it is almost likely now. Big swing of events in MSU's favor...
Funny how that works.
Not sure. If not, Dantonio will coach up some 3 star redshirts. No big deal.
Stars don't matter, he is using them to prove a fallacy in the apparent belief of the UM fanbase that stars only matter for their own players. MSU's star ratings have gone up almost every year under Dantonio. While this doesn't mean much to many MSU fans, it doesn't make sense for this not to matter to a fanbase that touts their own star ratings nonstop.
UM fans tend to believe that their team will be better, in large part, because they are getting players with more stars next to their name. Nevermind that the improvement, star-wise, from RR to Hoke is anything but game-changing. Meanwhile, the star ratings for Dantonio's classes have made a significant improvement from the John L days. So how do UM fans believe that your own team will be better because of this, but don't apply the exact same logic to the MSU team?
Is this the same '14 recruit that will probably play basketball exclusively? Yeah ... ok.
“Those who stay will be champions”
― Bo Schembechler
I tend to think that Michigan will be better because they have Hoke and company at the helm. Also, Hoke is bringing in balanced classes across the board, oline, dline, lbs, dbs, wrs, tes, rbs, qb... compared to RichRod. RichRod didn't put together back to back deep classes like this either.
This post was edited by xxmgobluexx 21 months ago
How do you feel about about Burbridge learning a college playbook while having to attend college classes? It seems that if you're barely riding the line to qualify academically to play college ball, going to any institution in the B1G is going to be a quantum leap. While athletes are obviously funneled into easier classes everywhere, I can't imagine someone who is struggling through a high school curriculum to immediately become adjusted to the college level. He might be a gamer on the field, but I feel like hes the kind of kid who'll need a redshirt solely to adjust to the demands of college both athletically and academically. Not saying I don't think he'll play, but counting on him to be an immediate contributor seems like a lot of pressure on the kid.
The hardest part is getting into the school. Once he qualifies, he will play.
I'm not really sure you answered his question.
He wasn't trying to make that point at all.
And BTW, there is a huge difference from going from the fiftieth best class to the 25 best class, or whatever you have. To us having one of the very top recruiting classes in the nation. I'm not sure how you see that as being even remotely relevent.
And Michigan will need a few more years of recruiting to be an Alabama type with major talent everywhere, but we are on our way. Now I don't think recruiting is everything, obviously coaching plays a major role. But tou guys will NEVER get over that hump without recruiting better. Beating Georgia is one thing. Beating bama is a whole other deal.
I'll give credit where it due though. Dantonio has done a fantastic job and will continue to keep tour program in the thick of things. In fact the whole staff is great at coaching, if they could recruit tou may have something special
Let's be honest here...you have to REALLY make an effort NOT to be eligible once you're in college.
I wasn't attempting to. I was responding to this statment he made, "UM fans tend to believe that their team will be better, in large part, because they are getting players with more stars next to their name."
A couple things.
1. MSU athletes actually aren't funneled very much at all. There always will be some, but the administration has taken a hard and fast stance against it for many years. It was all a part of how Michigan State tried to sabotage and cannibalize it's own football program for much of the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. Some real pride-swelling stuff.
2. I tutored athletes at MSU's Clara Bell Smith educational center, and it's pretty amazing how strict the rules are with regards to classwork. They have a mandatory number of hours that they have to log studying, some of it is required to be with tutors. And the intelligence isn't the issue whatsoever, which is why the rumors about him qualifying or not have been so back and forth; every time he actually gets in danger of not qualifying, he simply turns it up a couple notches and raises his GPA. I think it's more an issue of dedication, in that he probably figures he's going pro anyway, so school is a waste of his time. Well I can promise you that putting in the time will not be the issue at MSU (and I would imagine most, if not all, B1G programs).
3. If MSU is legitimately counting on him to be an immediate contributor (better than the 4th WR), then we're probably in trouble. We've got enough other WR's who have had more time to prepare, are more experienced, and/or are almost just as gifted.
4. Finally, if Charles Rogers can learn a playbook over any period of time, then Burbridge can learn it before week 1.
Gotta give you a point for that
Sincerely, Tate Forcier.
This is Michigan, fergodsakes.
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